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As asteriamalfoy recently reported on the club wall, it appears that Moana will soon become the newest member of the Disney Princess lineup. The club's reception to the news is a mixed bag, which is the latest example of how the general Fanpop opinion (namely, this club's opinion) doesn't always match that of the internet. It's interesting why that is, and I will attempt to find the reason here.

Before going forward, be aware that everything that I consider an "opinion" of Fanpop and/or the internet is a generalization. True, there are some users on both this website and the rest of the worldwide web who are in their respective minorities. This is merely a breakdown of how I see it and my attempt to get to the root of the issue -- why is Moana beloved in some places, but not in others? Time to find out.

The Difference of Opinion
I find that on Youtube, Disney-related sites (such as "Oh My Disney"), and other sites (Buzzfeed and the like), Moana is a well-liked character. The common reasons people like her from what I've seen are:

• She's responsible; even though she wants to explore the ocean, she does what's right and chooses to lead her people. And she enjoys it, too!
• She's self-reliant; she doesn't need to be constantly saved, and she can save the day pretty much on her own.
• On a related note, she "doesn't need a man."
• On a separate related note, she's quick-thinking and resourceful, or what some people call "badass."
• She doesn't have the traditional look of a Disney Princess, i.e. no formal gown and different body type. This gives her a new and perhaps more realistic look.
• She renounces the princess name.



Then you check out the DP club on Fanpop, and you find that generally, Moana is not particularly loved, for reasons including:

• She has little to no flaws.
• She doesn't have much of a personality.
• She's just a mish-mash of the princesses who came before her -- nothing new.
• She renounces the princess name.

That's quite a contrast in opinion, and maybe a little surprising that a place dedicated to the DPs generally doesn't take too kindly to her. I think I've discovered why this contrast exists, though.

The Source of the Difference
Perhaps this contrast is because people that you find elsewhere on the internet have a different set of character traits/qualities that they value than the ones on this club. From what I understand, the general internet crowd values Disney Princesses and heroines who:

• Add something new to the lineup
• Are strong and can work independently
• Are determined and don't give up
• Are admirable

On this club, I think we have a different set of values for DPs. We like those who:

• Add something new to the lineup
• Are realistic and/or relatable
• Stand for something positive regarding princess-hood, femininity, etc. without feeling forced or too "in your face"
• Respect the DP franchise

Regarding the first bullet point -- I believe both sides like it when a princess/heroine adds something to the lineup, but it is seen in different ways. The internet seems to like how Moana invokes new positive qualities such as the desire and willingness to lead, which, let's be honest, hasn't been done with a DP before, at least not explicitly. I theorize that users on this club, including myself, consider all of the positive qualities of the character and how those stack up against the existing DPs, not just the new ones. For example, action-packed (Rapunzel), self-doubt (Pocahontas, Mulan), determined (Ariel), outspoken (Merida), and funny (Rapunzel, Anna) are all traits that we've seen in other princesses and heroines. The number of familiar traits can make the actual new traits seem like not enough.

However, I think the above argument is only a tiny part of why the Fanpop opinion is more critical. The remaining bullet points are key. As stated, Moana does show a desire and willingness to lead her people, which would fit the desired element of saying something positive about princess-hood (er, leader-hood, or how about just leadership). Is it in your face? I'm going to lean towards "no," but -- now I'm going to bring my own opinion into the mix -- it's one of the reasons I have difficulty latching onto her character. Despite Moana having this very positive quality going for her, she doesn't feel realistic to me. Her turn-around from wanting to sail the seas to being perfectly content staying and leading is just too sudden. With few flaws to balance it out, she comes across as a little too perfect to me. Perhaps this lack of realism and relatability is what others dislike, too.

It's often said that a strong character is one who works through their flaws; ergo, a strong female character is one who works through her flaws. Moana might have flaws, but maybe they don't get the focus they need to make us think, "Oh yeah, she overcame that flaw, achieved her goals, and learned something from this adventure." If that's the case, then the positive femininity thing doesn't really work. It's almost too positive, or impossibly positive. We need something more convincing if the takeaway is that a girl/lady/woman can achieve great things.



The biggest issue that Fanpoppers have with Moana comes from this line: "First off, I'm not a princess. I'm the daughter of the chief." This statement has not been well-received because for some, it implies that Moana is disrespecting the Disney Princess name. I shared that opinion too at one point. It may just be Disney poking fun at itself, but it can rub fans the wrong way. If this character who seemingly fits the DP mold can't appreciate the leading ladies who came before her...well, how the heck are we supposed to like her? Contrast this with the general internet's opinion, where people take it to mean that Moana doesn't have to be bogged down by the title of princess; one can be a strong character without having a royal title or other high status. Or, maybe people like it because it detaches her from the princess stereotype that they can't stand.

The more I think about it, the more I think that line is a double-edged sword. On one hand, it can be perceived as, "Oh yeah, you don't need to be a princess to save the day or to be someone important or worthwhile." On the other hand, one can perceive it as Moana being better than a princess, which can be taken as "Oh, you think you're better than the Disney Princesses, is that right?" or "Yeah, the princess title is just that -- a title. Not all heroines have to be princesses." Well, maybe there's a better message here. Instead of having your character say they're not a princess, why not embrace their princess-ness (or the equivalent -- daughter of a chief would be an equivalent), and then show us that said character is a good, strong character? You'd be broadening your own definition of princesses to mean any good-natured, strong-willed female, which is exactly what the DP franchise is trying to do now with their recent videos and slogan. Then, all of the princesses can be seen in a new and positive light.



Conclusions
Not to be too redundant, but I do believe that Moana's reception here versus on the rest of the internet boils down to what people want and like to see in Disney heroines, as well as how they interpret certain aspects of the character (or lines of dialogue, as discussed above). I think this is also the reason why fans can have such opposing views on other characters, like Ariel or Elsa. It can also be why some characters are sometimes seen favorably here, like the early princesses, but not much elsewhere. It all has to do with the specific set of traits we value. Moana's prospective introduction to the lineup brought this...for lack of a better term, "issue," to the spotlight, for me at least. Perhaps discussions like these will change some perceptions of characters for the better, even if just slightly, if people recognize the exact qualities that are being valued by other fans.
Today, I will bring you my DP list, arranged from my least favorite princesses to my most favorite princesses. But I will do this in a descriptive fashion. I will give you a sort of stream-of-consciousness writing of DP thoughts.

Ready? Here we go.

The Least Proactive Princesses: These two princesses are both whiny. One has very bad self-control issues tied with her cryokinetic powers ( the child abuse that she suffered as a kid did not help her), while the other was simply lied to, until she came of age. Both respond by throwing tantrums in the face of their problems.

13. Elsa “My parents...
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If anyone's been here for more than a few months, they know that, one, my list is an ever changing mess, and two, if I'm not writing this article every two months, something is wrong. Well, it's been nearly four or so months since I last wrote this list and somehow my list has remained relatively stable. Despite it staying nearly the same, these have always been my favorite articles to write, so I just thought I'd write it again. So here I go!

13. Belle

It's tough. I can see the appeal of Belle, I really can, and at times I wonder why she's last on my list, but she just..is. I don't know, she's...
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As some of you may know, Beauty and the Beast is one of my favourite Disney movies; because of the songs, characters, animation, morals and of course the story. However there is a German version (and I'm not sure when it was written, so I'm not sure if it was the original story) that is a little bit darker than the movie we all know and perhaps love...
So I thought it would be interesting to show it to you guys and see what you think of it. Let me know if you enjoyed it - or found it horrible.
Please note these are not my own words. And sorry it's kinda long

Little Broomstick

Germany

There...
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Hey guys, you may or may not remember me (people who don’t maybe new people or people who never noticed me in the first place). But it’s me, princecatcher93. I am so sorry that I left fanpop, I left for many different reasons, one being my family changed internet plans so I have 4G a month all to myself (may sound like a lot but when you use other things it can go by quickly), second of all my health really went down, which lead to many different things. I discovered I had desperation early last year and I used fanpop as my support group to get out my feels, I loved running a lot of things...
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Hmm, have I written an article on this? It seems vaguely familiar, but I looked through like five pages of my articles and didn't see it, so I'm gonna write it anyway, hizzaaa! Remember this is purely opinion based, so don't be mad if it strays from your own list :3 I hope you enjoy! //edit; I decided to change it up and instead of ranking the princesses, talk about what makes them all a good role model and not talk about the bad parts (because positivity yayayyy).

Snow White

Snow's a trooper, plain and simple. She's fourteen years old, the youngest of all the princesses, and yet despite that...
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I am currently working on a bigger article where all the songs are ranked. But here are my favorites from each movie. And some runner ups :) (I will include runner ups where the 2nd place could have a chance at beating the 1st place) So let's begin! Warning: You'll be hearing a lot of "love" here. Bonus warning: English isn't my first language. :)




Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs

I'm Wishing/One Song

Oh, how I love this song. I love the opening, lyrics, voices, melody, romance and the ahahahahah. I'm not laughing, I'm just trying to sing like Snow in my head. But my favorite part is when the prince...
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Click link to read my opinion on the classic era princesses and movies
Click link to read my opinion on the renaissance era princesses and movies

Here's the 3rd and final article of my opinion on the princesses and movies and this article covers the modern era which consists of 4 movies and 5 princesses

Let's start with the movies:

The Princess and The Frog:

This is my 6th favorite DP Movie and I really love this movie, the animation is breathtaking, the songs are overall good, the score is okay, the characters are good and the story is great. My favorite character in The Princess and The...
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Snow White and the 7 Dwarfs - One Song
This song is very romantic, I think I would die if a guy sung this to me. If only there was someone out there who loved me... the same way Prince loves Snow White *tear* Not to mention Prince has the voice of an angel who has fallen from the sky.


Cinderella - A Dream is a Wish Your Heart Makes
This is a very soothing and relaxing song. But what makes me love it is that it makes me hope for a better tomorrow, just like the lyrics suggest. It makes me feel all tingly and happy inside!


Sleeping Beauty - Once Upon a Dream
Another very romantic song...
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An enormous thanks to the biggest and best Elsa fan I know, link from tumblr, who did most of the work when I asked her for ideas on who Elsa would like best (I used much of her own words, so most credit to her, but paraphrased as much as I dared). She has a better understanding of Elsa's character than anyone I've known. Thanks to everyone else who gave me their ideas as well!

Elsa's top and bottom princesses were relatively easy to guess without help, but I had a lot of difficulty with the middle ones, because parts of Elsa's personality we don't get to see, just the obvious things like valuing...
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The countdowns are done and the results are here!!!

Enjoy.


13. Aurora-
Poor Aurora. Although Aurora is Fanpop's least outspoken DP, she is known for her amazing grace, beauty, and charm. She is known for being kind to others. It is also very good that not all the DP's are outspoken because it makes each of them different.



carrieicecream- I think shes outspoken, I dont know.

CraZyRawR- She is actually more outspoken than Cinderella or Elsa.Cinderella doesn't stand up to her step-family and Elsa barely talks to anyone else.

DBZFAN789- Aurora shouldn't have been able to compete AT ALL!...{insert...
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I was thinking about it today, and I realized that my favorite princess was either Snow White or Cinderella. Why? Because Snow White and Cinderella are both utterly oblivious. Snow, even after almost being killed, still keeps a cheery attitude. She seems to almost forget that The Queen is trying to slaughter her. It's like Snow White doesn't think about anything that's not in front of her very eyes. She remains mindlessly happy while dressed in rags and forced to act as a servant.

Cinderella, on the other hand, is a little less oblivious. Okay, a whole lot less. But still, she only ever gets...
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OK, as most of you may know, Ariel and Jasmine are the only two Disney Princesses to have their own series. Ariel's was "The Little Mermaid," (which was also the name of her movie), and Jasmine's was "Disney's Aladdin," (also the name of her) movie.

At times, I've thought to myself, "what if the other princesses had their own series?" Well, that's what my series of articles is here to find out. I'll be writing a series of articles describing how it would be if the princesses, excluding Ariel and Jasmine, had a series of their own. I'll explain the settings, the premise, and may even have episode...
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I've made an article about my favorite outfit of each princess and my favorite wardrobes, but I haven't made a top list of my favorite DP Outfits yet so I decided to do one, hope you'll like this article :)

10. Merida's Dark Green Dress

I thought this dress was dark blue until I realised that in daylight this dress is actually dark green, but anyway this dress is gorgeous, the color is lovely and the dress is simple yet stunning, but it's not any higher because while I love the color the color is too dark for my taste

9. Rapunzel's Purple Dress

I love all of Rapunzel's outfits, but...
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I've been wanting to write this article for a while because since I last wrote it my opinions has changed and also when I wrote this article last time Frozen hadn't been realesed into the cinemas, so now in this article I'll include Anna and Elsa for the first time so hope you'll enjoy this article :)

13. Ariel

I think she's cute in a pretty way, her eyes have a lovely blue color, her smile is adorable, the color of her lips is pretty and her nose is normal sized, but I don't really like the rest of her features, while her eyes wouldn't look better if they where smaller I'm not too keen...
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