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As asteriamalfoy recently reported on the club wall, it appears that Moana will soon become the newest member of the Disney Princess lineup. The club's reception to the news is a mixed bag, which is the latest example of how the general Fanpop opinion (namely, this club's opinion) doesn't always match that of the internet. It's interesting why that is, and I will attempt to find the reason here.

Before going forward, be aware that everything that I consider an "opinion" of Fanpop and/or the internet is a generalization. True, there are some users on both this website and the rest of the worldwide web who are in their respective minorities. This is merely a breakdown of how I see it and my attempt to get to the root of the issue -- why is Moana beloved in some places, but not in others? Time to find out.

The Difference of Opinion
I find that on Youtube, Disney-related sites (such as "Oh My Disney"), and other sites (Buzzfeed and the like), Moana is a well-liked character. The common reasons people like her from what I've seen are:

• She's responsible; even though she wants to explore the ocean, she does what's right and chooses to lead her people. And she enjoys it, too!
• She's self-reliant; she doesn't need to be constantly saved, and she can save the day pretty much on her own.
• On a related note, she "doesn't need a man."
• On a separate related note, she's quick-thinking and resourceful, or what some people call "badass."
• She doesn't have the traditional look of a Disney Princess, i.e. no formal gown and different body type. This gives her a new and perhaps more realistic look.
• She renounces the princess name.



Then you check out the DP club on Fanpop, and you find that generally, Moana is not particularly loved, for reasons including:

• She has little to no flaws.
• She doesn't have much of a personality.
• She's just a mish-mash of the princesses who came before her -- nothing new.
• She renounces the princess name.

That's quite a contrast in opinion, and maybe a little surprising that a place dedicated to the DPs generally doesn't take too kindly to her. I think I've discovered why this contrast exists, though.

The Source of the Difference
Perhaps this contrast is because people that you find elsewhere on the internet have a different set of character traits/qualities that they value than the ones on this club. From what I understand, the general internet crowd values Disney Princesses and heroines who:

• Add something new to the lineup
• Are strong and can work independently
• Are determined and don't give up
• Are admirable

On this club, I think we have a different set of values for DPs. We like those who:

• Add something new to the lineup
• Are realistic and/or relatable
• Stand for something positive regarding princess-hood, femininity, etc. without feeling forced or too "in your face"
• Respect the DP franchise

Regarding the first bullet point -- I believe both sides like it when a princess/heroine adds something to the lineup, but it is seen in different ways. The internet seems to like how Moana invokes new positive qualities such as the desire and willingness to lead, which, let's be honest, hasn't been done with a DP before, at least not explicitly. I theorize that users on this club, including myself, consider all of the positive qualities of the character and how those stack up against the existing DPs, not just the new ones. For example, action-packed (Rapunzel), self-doubt (Pocahontas, Mulan), determined (Ariel), outspoken (Merida), and funny (Rapunzel, Anna) are all traits that we've seen in other princesses and heroines. The number of familiar traits can make the actual new traits seem like not enough.

However, I think the above argument is only a tiny part of why the Fanpop opinion is more critical. The remaining bullet points are key. As stated, Moana does show a desire and willingness to lead her people, which would fit the desired element of saying something positive about princess-hood (er, leader-hood, or how about just leadership). Is it in your face? I'm going to lean towards "no," but -- now I'm going to bring my own opinion into the mix -- it's one of the reasons I have difficulty latching onto her character. Despite Moana having this very positive quality going for her, she doesn't feel realistic to me. Her turn-around from wanting to sail the seas to being perfectly content staying and leading is just too sudden. With few flaws to balance it out, she comes across as a little too perfect to me. Perhaps this lack of realism and relatability is what others dislike, too.

It's often said that a strong character is one who works through their flaws; ergo, a strong female character is one who works through her flaws. Moana might have flaws, but maybe they don't get the focus they need to make us think, "Oh yeah, she overcame that flaw, achieved her goals, and learned something from this adventure." If that's the case, then the positive femininity thing doesn't really work. It's almost too positive, or impossibly positive. We need something more convincing if the takeaway is that a girl/lady/woman can achieve great things.



The biggest issue that Fanpoppers have with Moana comes from this line: "First off, I'm not a princess. I'm the daughter of the chief." This statement has not been well-received because for some, it implies that Moana is disrespecting the Disney Princess name. I shared that opinion too at one point. It may just be Disney poking fun at itself, but it can rub fans the wrong way. If this character who seemingly fits the DP mold can't appreciate the leading ladies who came before her...well, how the heck are we supposed to like her? Contrast this with the general internet's opinion, where people take it to mean that Moana doesn't have to be bogged down by the title of princess; one can be a strong character without having a royal title or other high status. Or, maybe people like it because it detaches her from the princess stereotype that they can't stand.

The more I think about it, the more I think that line is a double-edged sword. On one hand, it can be perceived as, "Oh yeah, you don't need to be a princess to save the day or to be someone important or worthwhile." On the other hand, one can perceive it as Moana being better than a princess, which can be taken as "Oh, you think you're better than the Disney Princesses, is that right?" or "Yeah, the princess title is just that -- a title. Not all heroines have to be princesses." Well, maybe there's a better message here. Instead of having your character say they're not a princess, why not embrace their princess-ness (or the equivalent -- daughter of a chief would be an equivalent), and then show us that said character is a good, strong character? You'd be broadening your own definition of princesses to mean any good-natured, strong-willed female, which is exactly what the DP franchise is trying to do now with their recent videos and slogan. Then, all of the princesses can be seen in a new and positive light.



Conclusions
Not to be too redundant, but I do believe that Moana's reception here versus on the rest of the internet boils down to what people want and like to see in Disney heroines, as well as how they interpret certain aspects of the character (or lines of dialogue, as discussed above). I think this is also the reason why fans can have such opposing views on other characters, like Ariel or Elsa. It can also be why some characters are sometimes seen favorably here, like the early princesses, but not much elsewhere. It all has to do with the specific set of traits we value. Moana's prospective introduction to the lineup brought this...for lack of a better term, "issue," to the spotlight, for me at least. Perhaps discussions like these will change some perceptions of characters for the better, even if just slightly, if people recognize the exact qualities that are being valued by other fans.
I saw Swanpride doing this with the Villains so I thought I'd do this with the Princesses. Btw, I know Wendy is not a Princess but Peter Pan seemed more fitting as Al Lipschitz. Enjoy!




[JASMINE]
Lies
[TIANA]
Six
[BELLE]
Squish
[CINDERELLA]
Uh uh
[ARIEL]
Atlantica
[WENDY]
Pan!
[JASMINE]
Lies
[TIANA]
Six
[BELLE]
Squish
[CINDERELLA]
Uh uh
[ARIEL]
Atlantica
[WENDY]
Pan!
[CLOPIN]
And now the six Princesses of the Walt Disney Animation Studios in their rendition of "The Cell Block Tango"
[JASMINE]
Lies
[TIANA]
Six
[BELLE]
Squish
[CINDERELLA]
Uh uh
[ARIEL]
Atlantica
[WENDY]
Pan!
(4X)
[ALL]
He had it coming
He had it coming
He only had himself...
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posted by Rac801
I was thinking I love most DP dresses so why not not share what i think with you! Let's get started!
1. Elsa
Elsa's dresses are all different in their own way. Elsa starts out in a blueish purpleish dress that suits her personality. Elsa seems to have always loved blue so that may be why all Elsa's dresses are blue. Her coronation dress is VERY similar to her childhood dress(except for the cape). Elsa's first two dresses are pretty but my favorite is DEFINATELY Ice Queen dress. It's blue(of course) and really shows her true personality. The torso of her dress is my favorite part. The little pieces...
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posted by BelleRose829
Is basically what he said...
Is basically what he said...
I want to do this for all the Disney princesses but Mulan has to come first she is like my Favorite princess, but still not my favorite princess. She is just so awesome. I'll try to not be redundant but pardon me if I do. Without further introduction, here are the reasons I love Mulan.


Mulan shows independence, maturity, bravery, everything a lot of the mother princesses seem to be lacking. She is a amazing role model for young girls, by her being the heroine, saving a whole country and the person she loves, yet putting her family before love, and making her man come to her rather than the...
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posted by bluethunder25
OK, I just got finished watching Frozen and what did I think about it?

It. Was. GREAT!!!

Let me start off with the animation. Fantastic. The visuals are stunning, especially when Elsa uses her powers. Hell, she practically steals the show in this category. The lighting and brightness in this film were great; during the dark and light scenes to be specific.

Now for the songs. From top to bottom, the songs are fantastic. From "Love is an Open Door," to "Let It Go," and "For the First Time in Forever." Although I'd have to say my least favorite one would be "In Summer," mainly for the visuals and...
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Hey there. For those of you that don't know me, I'm Jackie and this is the first article that I'm posting on here, so don't bash me. Now, I'd like to say something before I begin. Only about half of our team posted something for this article, which was mostly fan art, only me and doomkittycd posted a paragraph for the article, and I'm not too sure if our team leader will ever post this before the deadline. So, I decided that I should do it since the deadline is today. Hope you enjoy!


Okay, first of all, she never judged a person by their looks. The saying goes, "Don't judge a book...
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So this is pretty popular in the polls by asking which of your unpopular opinions would you agree with most. I decided if make an article instead because it seems more unique and stuff, so here you go, I hope you enjoy hating it :) Or maybe even agreeing with it.

I think Rapunzel is more attractive than Elsa
To me I don't actually think Elsa is a gorgeous as everyone says. She has a very mature look but Rapunzel looks girlish and playful, I'd prefer that kind of look over Mature and Sexy any day. You see, Elsa looks like a model, Rapunzel looks like that everyday beauty just with a brighter...
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posted by dclairmont
Icon by BraBrief
Icon by BraBrief
Team Aurora may have had a late start, not even having enough members to originally create a team, but we've risen from the ashes, and are now here to take over the world (mwahahhahah) Well, I hope you enjoy reading this :D

Leader of Team Aurora: me (dclairmont)
Other Members:
rhythmicmagic
BraBrief
AudreyFreak

AudreyFreak

Aurora fascinates me as a character, because while we see a lot of her personality, a lot is open to interpretation. She's pretty much everything I love in a female character: responsible, feminine, imaginative, a bit sassy, perceptive, not rebellious, proper but a bit free-spirited...
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posted by Diazdiaz95
I've already ranked their films so now I will rank the princesses individually. Share your thoughts. My opinions are always changing so this list might not always be the same in my head.
13. Aurora
I love her film but she really is the worst, most boring part of it. Sure, she's beautiful and has one of the best singing voices of any princess but she is just so bland. And I can't place a character who only appears for around 18 minutes any higher on this list. She's nice but really needed more of a personality especially since her film has such memorable characters.
12. Cinderella
I used to think...
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This stunning picture of Elsa helped her obtain her second best picture in the competition Credit to:selinmarsou
This stunning picture of Elsa helped her obtain her second best picture in the competition Credit to:selinmarsou
Previously on DNTM: The girls fight to win in a photo shoot challenge and the models pose in fashion dresses and needed to be elegant. Elsa, Ariel and Belle all do well while Pocahontas and Cinderella struggled. Cinderella was the model to be sent home. Only 7 princesses remain. Who will be eliminated next?

Confessionals After Elimination:
Elsa: I got best picture so I am happy but Cinderella was a friend of mine so I am sad she left.
Elsa confessional
Elsa confessional

Snow White: I am last classic princess left. I have to win this competition now for the classic princesses.
Rapunzel: Cinderella left and there...
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Pocahontas got best picture for this stunning photo of her as a zombie Credit:x-Tsuzurao-x
Pocahontas got best picture for this stunning photo of her as a zombie Credit:x-Tsuzurao-x
Previously on DNTM: Pocahontas is emotionally affected from the death of John Smith and the models pose as zombies. Jasmine and Elsa produce bad pictures but it was Jasmine was sent home. Who will be eliminated next?

Confessional after elimination
Pocahontas: I am really sad that Jasmine left. She helped me get through this death and I don't know what I can do now.
Ariel: I had drama originally with Jasmine but we became great friends I really wanted her to be in the competition longer.
Elsa: For the second week in a row I had a bad picture and was almost sent home. I really need to improve or...
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posted by RapunzelAnna
Note:
please don't write rude comments
this personally is my own opinion we all have different opinions and this is mine

13.Snow White
link

12.Tiana:
She is spunky with just the right amount of maturity and femininity. Her many talents get her so far in life. And she doesn't need a man to help get her there. But I had NO CHOICE but
to put her in 12th
link

11.Merida:
Her Movie is epic I love her and her amazing skills
but somehow I just had to put her as 11th
she's awesome and got good skills!
link


10.Pocahontas:
I Used to love her
when I was little but she still remains awesome
I love her songs they're...
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added by PrincessFairy
Source: http://snowsomewhere.tumblr.com/post/78500425908/these-have-been-fun-to-make-i-just-really-love
posted by RoseOfRapunzel
So, I just felt like doing this because I really don't have much progress and I wanted to regain it all. It doesn't have reprises.
This took me forever to do by memory and I'm pretty sure I won't get any recognition for this, but hey....I'm contributing, right?

I'm Wishing/One Song
Want to hear a secret?
Promise to never tell?
We are standing by a wishing well.
Make a wish into the well
That's all you have to do
And when you hear it echoing
You're wish will soon come true.
I'm wishing
For the one I love, To find me
Today
I'm wishing, And I'm dreaming of
The nice things, He'll say.

One Song, I have but...
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added by zikkiforever
Source: Movie
added by zikkiforever
Source: Zikkiforever
added by mhs1025
Source: disneyscreencaps
You guys already know that I started a poll and added a question in the respective columns of the Disney Princess pot,asking for your favorite 3D Disney Princess,that are,Rapunzel,Merida,Anna and Elsa.And now,the results are out!

4.Merida (12% in poll,3 votes in answers)

Merida is the 11th official Disney Princess,who was added in the DP line up officially on 11 May,2013.She is the main female protagonist of the Disney's 2012 Animated Feature 'Brave' directed by Mark Andrews and Brenda Chapman.

Reviews by Merida Fans

kittykittykat13 said : Merida is not afraid of being herself.

RoseOfRapunzel said...
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posted by RoseOfRapunzel
On my old account, THEDisneyFreak, I created a personality award to see which fanpopper is most like *insert Disney Princess here* so I hope no drama starts. And thank you to those who participated!

Let's get started!

Snow White


This award is presented to....
Sweetie-94!


Congratulations sweetie!
Nominations:
MalloMar
disneygirl7
dclairmont
Silverrose1991


Well....the next princess is.....duh

Cinderella


The winner is.....
MalloMar

Congratulations MalloMar!
Nominations:
Libellulebleu
Awinitarose
MaidOfOrleans
Silverrose1991
hajirah4


Aurora


This award goes to dear
Awinitarose

Congrats Awinitarose!...
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added by RoseOfRapunzel
Source: THEDisneyFreak/RoseOfRapunzel