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posted by HumphreyWolfMan
In the movie, the wolves contains human like characteristics. That means they can think like a human, but can also pass on ideas like how humans do. The first movie clearly shows this.

Assuming the logic of that is meant to be realistic, does that make it alright for the wolves to know human phrases without showing that they learned it on the same movie?
The answer is long, and in short, it's a "yes".

In Ratatouille, Remy was able to know how to cook, and know a lot of human phrases because he learned how to, and even the movie showed that.
Alpha and Omega did not do that.

But...
Many can assume many anthropomorphic animals in zoos (e.g. Madagascar?) can learn because they been around humans. One can also assume Humphrey saw a native American which cause him to know rain dancing and danced for it.
However, these are theories related to a basic form of logic a human thinking like non-human animal can do, and in one case it can be assumed without even showing it on the movie or show. And yes, that makes sense too. Usually many things are made up of things existing in some past.

And that's the thing.
Not only you can do the same logic in some sequel cases, these type of creatures has a mind like a human, and they can learn as I already said. However, having the mind like a human also means they can pass on information for several years in a similar way like a human because humans can do that as well.

Therefore, you can assume that Humphrey knew some phrase (e.g. that one (forgot name) reference from 5) from some human knowledge artwork because he could of learned it from other wolves and/or other animals passing off information. This type of assumption would be within the same logic as assuming knowledge because one lived with humans all their life. It's only a stretch, so it's still within logic.

Plus, we do not know every single event that happened with these characters between the movies and between some events within each movie. It is realistically possible they could of learned something involving humans in that too. Even the rain dance thing is very stretched and is the same length of logic from the plus part. Maybe even the passing information possibility.

Kinda a Conclusion?
Since these are just stretches within the same logic, if the logic excusing Humphrey knowing certain phrases in a sequel is wrong, then it would also be wrong for Humphrey to know how to rain dance from the FIRST movie, it would also be wrong for some characters from Madagascar to know human phrases because they lived in a zoo around humans, and it would even be wrong for Remy to do all that human stuff because he learned how to.
To say it's wrong is like saying it's wrong for them to be anthropomorphic.

Many of such knowing is the same logic coming from how the human mind works.

Humans Themselves
If we can assume a human knew a video game called Super Mario Bros. in a lost home on the same planet, we can assume the human knew that at some point in the past either from passing on information or went to a city and learned it from there.

If a human was born on a planet where such video game didn't exist, and there would be no way for the human to know about it, then the human mentioned it anyway, then that would make no sense. Just because this is a human, doesn't mean they can know everything by default either.

Same exact logic for Alpha and Omega wolves.

My Defense Is The Realistic?
Is people understanding this? XD
Well, being anthropomorphic like this means having a mind like a human, and if that's the case, it would make zero sense to say "You don't know that!" when in fact, it may actually be possible that they can.*
*It would only make sense for example to suggest that to a wolf that has a clear backstory clearly showing that the wolf did not have knowledge of that yet with no skipping between that part and recent event.

It's true, I do think we need to realize that some movies can be partly realistic but still have non-realistic things in it, and maybe Alpha and Omega isn't meant to be very realistic with anthropomorphism. But even with this, turns out what I am defending may actually be the realistic one. Huh...

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I need to remind myself that I am posting this in a group that's likely less rational, so I'm not expecting any open minded feedback?
I don't mind someone attempting to challenge me as long if it follows logic maybe. But I won't expect it. Also make sure it's safe and legal.
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posted by AlphaClub
"So, now that King is dead, Claudette will be second in command." Ares decided. "No, Ares. Your time is up! I trained you as an assasin to HELP others, not to HARm them! I've waited for a while, to see if you would change, but you get worst! Come, fight me and we'll see who's the stronger, if you think you are so unstoppable." Beke screached as she leapt up onto the overhang where they had meetings."Excuse me? Maybe you weren't told, but you are not the leader here, I am." He quickly lashed out at Beke, but she blocked his blow. She retaliated, delivering a blow across his face, sending him...
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posted by ThreeLitllePups
Come back and ready for a long adventure with Lea and Matt. Follow their relationship with good moment and bad… See the two pups grown and began an Alpha. Lea will can be an Alpha, Matt will be her boyfriend. Let’s go see that ^^ I didn’t write Lea’s POV because it will be just in Lea’s POV…

He was so beautiful when he walked. Very prove of him and sure, never scar or jut of frog… when we arrived I saw Lucille with a grey wolf. “Hey who is he” I asked to her, “Hi ! he call Ethan, he is the….” Lucille stop speaking and I see that she looked Matt. “Yeah he is my brother”...
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posted by ThreeLitllePups
No one's POV

Back to the den Lilly laid Runt near his mother. He is already sleep a few minutes ago. “Thanks to have back the pup Lilly and thanks Princess for that thou busy of Runt” said Kate. “No problem, he is very sweety” replied princess sweetly. “Hey Lilly do you want stay here for sleep” ask Humpfrey “It's sound good” she replied. “Well see you later Princess”. She smile toward her and erveryone laid near Runt. Princess come back to her den and all the familie begin to be tired. “Well I hope that Stinky and Claudette are fine” Kate said “Don't worry Kate I'm...
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posted by The-Theorist
Theories about Garth and Other Things

I thank all of you for your insight.

Kitsune32 brought up the possibility that he never knew his parents all that well, and I think that is a very believable theory. He could have lost them or been separated from them at a time where he barely knew who they were and had yet to bond with them. But how and when is still a mystery. What are your thoughts on this, Kitsune? I'm interested to hear what you have to say.

And LillyOmega2 corrected me in saying that Banff did not exist at the time, and I appreciate the correction. Guess I was so disappointed in the...
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posted by The-Theorist
Theory: Humphrey's Parents.

We already know the story of the first movie- two young wolves from opposite ends of the social order go on a wild, transcontinental adventure and fall in love and together change the practice of their home for the better. However, there are still several holes that are never filled by the movie, or any of its sequels for that matter.

The first thing we will look at is Humphrey. We know he is the eccentric, fun-loving omega, but what we never see in this movie, and never hear mention of, are his parents. So that raises the question: "Where are his parents?"

Every other...
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posted by LillyOmega2
I'm starting this as my two A&O zombie fanfics are almost complete and wanted to get my next idea known on fanfic.net.

This will not be an entirely original fanfic. I'm doing what I did to A&O2 with A&O4: turning the movie into a story and adding my own scenes to it. And this will also be darker than the movie was. I will also try to include Princess in this story as I wished she'd been in the movie, even though I liked it so much that I enjoyed it better than the original. I have an idea that may work.

And this is my only warning: DO NOT READ THIS IF YOU HAVE NOT SEEN ALPHA AND OMEGA:...
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posted by BlondLionEzel
Episode 1

*Jasper National Park, Canada*

Jared Wolfe: *Dashes into the den* Mom! Dad! I'm home!

Princess: *Sighs* You're back late again...

Jared Wolfe: I know...It's just I fought some weird monster on the outskirts today...

Nick Wolfe: A monster? What kind?

Jared Wolfe: It looked kind of like a phoenix...and it had swords!

Princess: That reminds me of when Wolfe used to battle monsters...

Nick Wolfe: Yeah...those were the days.

Teen Runt and Teen Magril: *Run in*

Teen Runt: Guys! Someone's kidnapped Kate, Lilly, Humphrey, and Garth!

Nick Wolfe: *Gets up* WHAT?!

*Kate and Humphrey's Den*

Nick Wolfe: *Looking...
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posted by LillyOmega2
Okay, YouTube is being a pain and I can't upload this there without it being blocked, so I put it on dropbox instead.

link

I wanted to make at least one A&O video that just used clips from the fourth movie cause of how it's the first sequel to be better than the original movie. The idea behind this one is that Daria (the blind white-colored she-wolf and pup in the video, for those who haven't seen it yet) can't forget about her past in her old pack and how she was exiled for being blind. I kinda tied that idea in with the screamed part:
I won’t forget—I cannot forget this!
I won’t forget—I’ll...
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Wow...this movie...blew me out of the water...

Plot: Runt must help a blind wolf named Daria find a home while he learns about a ghost.

The plot of this movie is very deep, with lots of neat twists and turns.

Score: 5/5

Music: The music was meh in this one...

Score 4/5

Characters(Heroes): Runt is becoming a hero. He helps Daria escape evil wolves, which is a very admirable thing. The only problem I had where the Porcupines (except the male one).

Score: 4.5/5

Characters(Villains): The evil wolves who tried to kill Daria are despicable! They killed her mother and tried to kill her! YURUSANAI!

Score: 5/5

Final Thoughts: This movie wins best animated for this year for me.

Final Score: 18.5/20

Would I recommend it? YES
posted by LillyOmega2
I know Daria is the blind she-wolf, those two porcupines are most likely Freida and Fran, Lyle and Link are Tony's old friends, the head wolf is the one who dies at the end, but I have one question about the cast list:

Who is Lois? The she-wolf who tells Daria about her mother and is a re-skin of Sweets? I don't remember anyone called Lois in A&O4. She may have been mentioned by name and I not noticed it, but I could've missed it as the character I'm assuming "Lois" is didn't appear until near the end of the movie.
posted by BlondLionEzel
Episode 14

*Darkness Kingdom*

King: *Pulls Clone Kate out of the cloning machine*

Clash: Is that the last one?

King: Yes *Gives Clone Kate the Zodiac Lemon, a lemon with a Aquarius symbol on it*

Clone Kate: *Eats it and becomes the Aquarius Zodiark*

Aquarius Zodiark: *Has blue and purple armor, light-blue water-like hair, pink boots, a cute wolf-like mask, and a metal fan named Calypso, goes through a portal to Jasper National Park*

*Jasper National Park, Canada*

Nick Wolfe: *Petting Zenith Gabu* Who’s a good boy?

Zenith Gabu: *Rolls over*

Stinky: *Giggles* That thing is so cute!

Nick Wolfe: *Nods*...
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Nick Wolfe: Gaku Sano

Kate: Kate Higgins

Humphrey: Ben Diskin

Lilly: Christina Ricci

Garth: Blackie Rose

Princess: Meryl Leigh

Eve: Vickie Lewis

Winston: Danny Glover

Tony: Bill Lader

King: Blackie Rose

Clash: Yutaka Kobayashi

Christopher X: Shouma Yamamoto

Emperor Jabberwocky: Kengo Ohkuchi

Duke Nero: Jun Fukuyama

Lady Raven: Aya Hisakawa

Earl Kage: Haruhiko Jō

Dark Byakko: Yusuke Yamada

Dark Suzaku: Taito Hashimoto

Dark Genbu: Hiroyuki Matsumoto

Dark Seiryu: Honaka Miki
posted by BlondLionEzel
Episode 14

*Jasper National Park, Canada*

Nick Wolfe: *Wating*

Aries Zodiark: *Comes out of a portal* Wolfe...It’s time.

Nick Wolfe: Yeah...*Attaches the Zenith Brace*

Zenith Gabu: *Jumps out and attaches to the Zenith Brace*

Nick Wolfe: Henshin...*Becomes Zenith Wolfe*

Zenith Wolfe: *Has light blue armor, a light blue wolf mask with red eyes, a pair of folded wings, and a diamond-like sword called the Zenith Fang*

Aries Zodiark: *Laughs* Change forms all you like, but it won’t be enough to stop me! *Charges at Zenith Wolfe*

Zenith Wolfe: Shield Block! *Blocks and blasts Aries Zodiark away*

Aries...
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Rocko put his cowboy boots and hat on
He knew he had to go back
He sat next to princess and Kate
Be carful out there'' Kate said tearing up
I will'' Rocko said giving her a hug
Princess kissed him
Please be carful I can't lose you'' she begged
I'll call'' he said
You better'' eve said
Rocko and hutch got on the plain
ON THE PLAIN
Rocko finished off a song he was singing
"The times we used to sit right here on the edge of this pier
And watch the sunset disrepeir
And drink a beer"
A WEEK LATER
hutch go over there
Sarg'' hutch said worried
I said now'' Rocko screamed
Sarg'' hutch said again pointing behind him...
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posted by BlondLionEzel
Episode 8

*Jasper National Park, Canada*

Kate: *Catches a fish*

Clone Humphrey: *Appears in front of Kate* Kate...Kate...

Kate: *Looks at Clone Humphrey* Oh, hello Humphrey.

Clone Humphrey: Kate...

Kate: Humphrey?

Clone Humphrey: *Roars and changes into the Capricorn Zodiark*

Kate: HUH!?!

Capricorn Zodiark: *Charges at Kate*

Kate: *Runs*

Capricorn Zodiark: *Chases after Kate* Kate! Kate!

*Nick Wolfe and Princesses Den*

Nick Wolfe: *Reading a book, and then ears perk up*

Princess: *Looks at Nick Wolfe* What is it honey?

Nick Wolfe: That thing I fought yesterday...It's back.

Princess: Are you sure?

Nick Wolfe:...
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