In the movie, the wolves contains human like characteristics. That means they can think like a human, but can also pass on ideas like how humans do. The first movie clearly shows this.
Assuming the logic of that is meant to be realistic, does that make it alright for the wolves to know human phrases without showing that they learned it on the same movie?
The answer is long, and in short, it's a "yes".
In Ratatouille, Remy was able to know how to cook, and know a lot of human phrases because he learned how to, and even the movie showed that.
Alpha and Omega did not do that.
But...
Many can assume many anthropomorphic animals in zoos (e.g. Madagascar?) can learn because they been around humans. One can also assume Humphrey saw a native American which cause him to know rain dancing and danced for it.
However, these are theories related to a basic form of logic a human thinking like non-human animal can do, and in one case it can be assumed without even showing it on the movie or show. And yes, that makes sense too. Usually many things are made up of things existing in some past.
And that's the thing.
Not only you can do the same logic in some sequel cases, these type of creatures has a mind like a human, and they can learn as I already said. However, having the mind like a human also means they can pass on information for several years in a similar way like a human because humans can do that as well.
Therefore, you can assume that Humphrey knew some phrase (e.g. that one (forgot name) reference from 5) from some human knowledge artwork because he could of learned it from other wolves and/or other animals passing off information. This type of assumption would be within the same logic as assuming knowledge because one lived with humans all their life. It's only a stretch, so it's still within logic.
Plus, we do not know every single event that happened with these characters between the movies and between some events within each movie. It is realistically possible they could of learned something involving humans in that too. Even the rain dance thing is very stretched and is the same length of logic from the plus part. Maybe even the passing information possibility.
Kinda a Conclusion?
Since these are just stretches within the same logic, if the logic excusing Humphrey knowing certain phrases in a sequel is wrong, then it would also be wrong for Humphrey to know how to rain dance from the FIRST movie, it would also be wrong for some characters from Madagascar to know human phrases because they lived in a zoo around humans, and it would even be wrong for Remy to do all that human stuff because he learned how to.
To say it's wrong is like saying it's wrong for them to be anthropomorphic.
Many of such knowing is the same logic coming from how the human mind works.
Humans Themselves
If we can assume a human knew a video game called Super Mario Bros. in a lost home on the same planet, we can assume the human knew that at some point in the past either from passing on information or went to a city and learned it from there.
If a human was born on a planet where such video game didn't exist, and there would be no way for the human to know about it, then the human mentioned it anyway, then that would make no sense. Just because this is a human, doesn't mean they can know everything by default either.
Same exact logic for Alpha and Omega wolves.
My Defense Is The Realistic?
Is people understanding this? XD
Well, being anthropomorphic like this means having a mind like a human, and if that's the case, it would make zero sense to say "You don't know that!" when in fact, it may actually be possible that they can.*
*It would only make sense for example to suggest that to a wolf that has a clear backstory clearly showing that the wolf did not have knowledge of that yet with no skipping between that part and recent event.
It's true, I do think we need to realize that some movies can be partly realistic but still have non-realistic things in it, and maybe Alpha and Omega isn't meant to be very realistic with anthropomorphism. But even with this, turns out what I am defending may actually be the realistic one. Huh...
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I need to remind myself that I am posting this in a group that's likely less rational, so I'm not expecting any open minded feedback?
I don't mind someone attempting to challenge me as long if it follows logic maybe. But I won't expect it. Also make sure it's safe and legal.
Assuming the logic of that is meant to be realistic, does that make it alright for the wolves to know human phrases without showing that they learned it on the same movie?
The answer is long, and in short, it's a "yes".
In Ratatouille, Remy was able to know how to cook, and know a lot of human phrases because he learned how to, and even the movie showed that.
Alpha and Omega did not do that.
But...
Many can assume many anthropomorphic animals in zoos (e.g. Madagascar?) can learn because they been around humans. One can also assume Humphrey saw a native American which cause him to know rain dancing and danced for it.
However, these are theories related to a basic form of logic a human thinking like non-human animal can do, and in one case it can be assumed without even showing it on the movie or show. And yes, that makes sense too. Usually many things are made up of things existing in some past.
And that's the thing.
Not only you can do the same logic in some sequel cases, these type of creatures has a mind like a human, and they can learn as I already said. However, having the mind like a human also means they can pass on information for several years in a similar way like a human because humans can do that as well.
Therefore, you can assume that Humphrey knew some phrase (e.g. that one (forgot name) reference from 5) from some human knowledge artwork because he could of learned it from other wolves and/or other animals passing off information. This type of assumption would be within the same logic as assuming knowledge because one lived with humans all their life. It's only a stretch, so it's still within logic.
Plus, we do not know every single event that happened with these characters between the movies and between some events within each movie. It is realistically possible they could of learned something involving humans in that too. Even the rain dance thing is very stretched and is the same length of logic from the plus part. Maybe even the passing information possibility.
Kinda a Conclusion?
Since these are just stretches within the same logic, if the logic excusing Humphrey knowing certain phrases in a sequel is wrong, then it would also be wrong for Humphrey to know how to rain dance from the FIRST movie, it would also be wrong for some characters from Madagascar to know human phrases because they lived in a zoo around humans, and it would even be wrong for Remy to do all that human stuff because he learned how to.
To say it's wrong is like saying it's wrong for them to be anthropomorphic.
Many of such knowing is the same logic coming from how the human mind works.
Humans Themselves
If we can assume a human knew a video game called Super Mario Bros. in a lost home on the same planet, we can assume the human knew that at some point in the past either from passing on information or went to a city and learned it from there.
If a human was born on a planet where such video game didn't exist, and there would be no way for the human to know about it, then the human mentioned it anyway, then that would make no sense. Just because this is a human, doesn't mean they can know everything by default either.
Same exact logic for Alpha and Omega wolves.
My Defense Is The Realistic?
Is people understanding this? XD
Well, being anthropomorphic like this means having a mind like a human, and if that's the case, it would make zero sense to say "You don't know that!" when in fact, it may actually be possible that they can.*
*It would only make sense for example to suggest that to a wolf that has a clear backstory clearly showing that the wolf did not have knowledge of that yet with no skipping between that part and recent event.
It's true, I do think we need to realize that some movies can be partly realistic but still have non-realistic things in it, and maybe Alpha and Omega isn't meant to be very realistic with anthropomorphism. But even with this, turns out what I am defending may actually be the realistic one. Huh...
______________
I need to remind myself that I am posting this in a group that's likely less rational, so I'm not expecting any open minded feedback?
I don't mind someone attempting to challenge me as long if it follows logic maybe. But I won't expect it. Also make sure it's safe and legal.
Hello, guys. Just wanted to say that, for the next few days, I will be going lone wolf. I may respond to some wall posts, but not many. I will still be up for the RP tomarrow, on my wall, if YOU guys are still up for it. Just wanted ya all to know! I won't be as active as I usually am! :) If you are interseted in the RP, PM me, or message me in my wall!!!
Also, random question... who likes dubstep? Tell me in the comments below!!! :)
I am going to continue to write... because the stupid site keeps telling me to post a longer article... what???
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Also, random question... who likes dubstep? Tell me in the comments below!!! :)
I am going to continue to write... because the stupid site keeps telling me to post a longer article... what???
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I am thinking of making a A&O voice series but need help with it like for example getting pictures for the episodes when they are ready and mostly female voice actors for the female wolves like Kate, Princess etc. If you want to help message me or comment on it or even go on my youtube channel Omegawolfben.
Like I said if someone wants to help and keep this franchise alive it would keep the series alive and if no more Alpha and Omega movies come out it would be like a entire movie or even a TV series just on Youtube.
Like I said if someone wants to help and keep this franchise alive it would keep the series alive and if no more Alpha and Omega movies come out it would be like a entire movie or even a TV series just on Youtube.
Okay. I just had to ro this; make a short song about, uh... some things. You'll get it when ya read it.
Oooh, I'm lost, lost without life...
Oooh, wouldn't you do anything for love?
I would take a knife,
If I could only strife...
Oooh... would you do anything?
Oooh... would you do anything?
Oooh... would you do anything?
Oooh, wouldn't you... do aaanythiiing?
Yes, we go through pain, we gOoo through anger,
But we still always have the pleasure!
But no, you have to be happy,
You can't just get angry?
I know, it's probably horrible, I know. But that was sokethong I've wanted to do for FOREVER. I boped you enjoyed it, and please, tell me what it meant to YOU in the comments. :)
Oooh, I'm lost, lost without life...
Oooh, wouldn't you do anything for love?
I would take a knife,
If I could only strife...
Oooh... would you do anything?
Oooh... would you do anything?
Oooh... would you do anything?
Oooh, wouldn't you... do aaanythiiing?
Yes, we go through pain, we gOoo through anger,
But we still always have the pleasure!
But no, you have to be happy,
You can't just get angry?
I know, it's probably horrible, I know. But that was sokethong I've wanted to do for FOREVER. I boped you enjoyed it, and please, tell me what it meant to YOU in the comments. :)
I keep seeing hate comments here and there and I just want to say a few things to everyone reading this. One thing for sure is that everyone who keeps wanting this club to die out: F*** OFF ALREADY! Look if you don't like this club then just leave. You're not forced to be here. Those who actually want to be here are really annoyed by spammers and haters. How about these haters just find your own club to annoy. We all want this to stop!
Now to those reading this and actually want this club to be alive: we can't just sit around waiting for a miracle. We must all take action and keep this club going. Everyone has a part to keep and the power to keep this club going but some of us underestimate our own power and are not using it wisely. Keep this club alive by adding fanarts, questions or even forums for crying out loud!
I am doing my part by trying to think of interesting things to keep everyone hooked. Now you must play your part.
Everyone who wants to: KEEP THIS CLUB ALIVE.
Now to those reading this and actually want this club to be alive: we can't just sit around waiting for a miracle. We must all take action and keep this club going. Everyone has a part to keep and the power to keep this club going but some of us underestimate our own power and are not using it wisely. Keep this club alive by adding fanarts, questions or even forums for crying out loud!
I am doing my part by trying to think of interesting things to keep everyone hooked. Now you must play your part.
Everyone who wants to: KEEP THIS CLUB ALIVE.
Rocko was hunting in the vally with his sister
"so whens the wedding" Kate asked
"i dont know sis"
"well i cant wai..."
Kate was cut of by a plane
"its japanese see the meat balls on the wings" Rocko said
"what are thay doing here"Kate asked
"go to your den" rocko said as the plane shot at him.
Kate ran as Rocko jumped on the plane when it got close
the plane flew down to hit a tree and explode as rocko jumped off.
"i was attaked this meens WAR.
sorry its short i dont have alot of time
"so whens the wedding" Kate asked
"i dont know sis"
"well i cant wai..."
Kate was cut of by a plane
"its japanese see the meat balls on the wings" Rocko said
"what are thay doing here"Kate asked
"go to your den" rocko said as the plane shot at him.
Kate ran as Rocko jumped on the plane when it got close
the plane flew down to hit a tree and explode as rocko jumped off.
"i was attaked this meens WAR.
sorry its short i dont have alot of time