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Harry Potter Vs. Twilight What books teach a better message? (explain why)

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harry potter
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HotJugs22 picked harry potter:
In Twilight, Bella falls to pieces when Edward leaves her, leading young girls to believe that they must have a boy in their life to be happy.
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GemonkDruid picked twilight:
Do the opposite of what Bella does. :/
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lol gemonkdruid

this is my 1st time here by the way and im already a harry potter fan twilight hater
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zanhar1 picked harry potter:
welcome to tis spot :)

anyhow, harry potter teaches you to be brave and face your fears. it teachs you to protect the ones you love or care about. it also shows that love takes time to devlope. harry potter also shows that you shouldnt judge someone until you know what theyve bben through. (pretty much snapes story.)

what does twilight teach, you always need a man even if you dont even love him, relationships dont need to take time just jump right into them. get pregnet when your still a teen. let your abusive boyfriend save you every time. jump of cliffs after break ups.

which one do you think has a more positive message? i'll let you decide.
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HaleyDewit picked harry potter:
yeah, see comment above
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nati30 picked harry potter:
See comment above comment above :)
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thesinginglark picked harry potter:
Cause Harry Potter tells us that not everything works out, people will die and you can't help that life not picture perfect. To have at least a near Happy Ever After takes a lot of work and tears. Relationships develop even if you were friends things change. Who you think might be evil can be good so never judge by the books cover. You 're grow stronger and find your talents when the time is right.
Twilight? Well, that apparently vampires sparkle, vampires can still get you pregnant even if their DEAD! Jump off a cliff when you think the "love" of your life dumps you. Destroy your life for the same reason. In a love triangle its okay to make to boys suffer for two whole books.Love is pure fluff and drama is kept to a minimum.Oh and its okay to get marry before you even go to collage.
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Beatlesxoxo picked harry potter:
The message I got from Harry Potter is that people can change for the better. To face your fear and be brave. Love is a powerful weapon. There's always hope even if you believe it to be lost. The ones we love never truely leave us. And to stand up for what you believe in.

Yeah Harry Potter def. :)
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june13 picked harry potter:
harry tell you not very thing works out all the time and theres going to be some bad times and good times and twilght is telling that u need a boy to be happy well you don't
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shivers-zimmy picked harry potter:
I Really Don't Think Either Teaches You Anything! But Twilight Does Have Some Bad Examples. . .
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bri-marie picked harry potter:
Harry Potter has a ton of moral/lessons: Diversity, second chances, not judging based on appearances, sacrifice, love, tolerance, standing up for what's right/what you believe in, racism, family, good versus evil, that no one person is one way.

Twilight teaches you that dumping your friends and family for the hot guy, not going to college, and being in a controlling, abusive relationship is a good thing.
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lemony44 picked harry potter:
• Harry Potter is about fighting the evil and finding true love and losing it and finding it all over again, it's about honesty and loyalty, about courage and bravery. It’s about shy becoming open and bad becoming good, it’s funny, unexpected, thrilling, and intense. It has a whole different world, food, drinks, shops, houses, sports, sayings, stories, and habits. Harry Potter promotes being honest and good and it shows that even though many lives can be sacrificed in the process, the good will win. In Harry Potter you never know what’s going to happen. You feel as if you are steps away from Harry, Ron and Hermione, you feel as if you could go to Hogwarts yourself, you find yourself knowing things that weren’t in the book nor in the movies, but you just know. You can see the characters growing, becoming more mature, as the years go by like a flash. Although it can be very complicated at times, you always know what all the creatures are, you never forget, because they are so well explained. You never find yourself being embarrassed to read the books or watch the movies. Other than just love, it includes loving and caring families, but it doesn’t pretend that there are no evil people out there. J.K. Rowling has the courage to let people die, because she can face the truth: life isn’t always fair. Harry Potter is the perfect example of true friend ship, love and not just attraction. J.K Rowling remains faithful to her plot, while having sub-plots. She makes her books attainable to all ages, and helps understand concepts too hard for kids to read in other books. Her books include mythology, derivations, famous names, Latin words used as spells. She has real evil people in her books, on a gradient: Duddley, Draco, Voldemort. Her names usually mean something and they match something that you have read in a previous book in her series. She describes every room, important object, person and even passerby if needed. She never leaves a character un-named, or unknown, but yet does not make it too long or un-necessary. You know what to expect from each and every person in the book, but yet you do not know what is going to happen. You know everyone’s background and funny aspects of their lives. It includes many different kinds of people, and it helps understand the importance of fraternizing with the foreign. It elaborates plots and sub-plots until it reaches the point where you are simply charmed. She has turned the old school wizard to a brand new golden age. Her books will be known forever, they will go on living. Her characters are so honest and real, that you wouldn’t be surprised if you knew someone just like them. They have the strength to keep up jokes and good moods even in bad times like theirs. They never give up, they search and discover. They try and fail and try again. Sometimes they win and sometimes they lose. Sometimes, you feel just like the characters do in the book, you have the same reality; you grip on to someone just like they do and then…puff! This person you gripped on to is gone and you know you have to go on, but you feel sad and cant. Sometimes you disagree with the people in the book, but that is in fact another lesson, people don’t always agree on things, do they? Harry Potter faces all the problems and questions we have in our modern society, and it helps you understand them. It’s about knowing when to breathe. You have many different viewpoints in this book, and you know you are always going to get at least a couple. Even though you know this is just a story that was made up by a woman in her 20’s sitting in a compartment in a delayed train, you also know that this happens every day all over the world. This book makes you understand that “hey” I can help! I can make difference! She has used the money she made on this book on charity, helping, and many other things. She has worked for a human rights support. Harry Potter is an event of a generation, and it shows what happens when people with good potential go the wrong way. It has you understand what happens when people try to break the rules of the universe and how it runs. Yet, you find that you can put this book down and continue on to your journey, but with a better knowledge. This book has been made into movies and a theme park was created to reach the magic, but was never quite as satisfying as how you knew it in your head. Because, to use one of the quotes from the manuscript “of course it’s happening in your head, but way on earth should that mean it’s not real?” So, to sum it up for you, Harry Potter is a story about LIFE.
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HecateA picked harry potter:
beautiful comment lemony44.

Twilight is just so unrealistic. "Of course its unrealistic, its about vampires and werewolves, stupid" some would say. I`m talking about the characters and setting.

In Twilight there are 3 groups of people. Bella and the Cullens, the Indians/werewolves, and the kids at Forks High.
At Hogwarts you`ve got your Gryffindors, Slytherins, Hufflepuffs and ravenclaws. Amongst that you have Quiditch players, Rich Brats, bullies, know-it-alls, poor kids, muggle borns, those who cant use magic (I forgot the English word, terribly sorry), Future death eater, the DA at one point, prefects, do I have to go on?
And that`s in Hogwarts only, the rets of the wizarding world is still out there!
Harry Potter is more realistic. Twilight shows that there are only 3 types of people and stereotypes them. No. You can`t pin people as this or that, a leson also covered in Harry Potter (I`m talking about Snape and Tom Riddle) because there is so much more to a person then meets the eye at first.

Also, death. Its sad, we probably all cried, were dumbfound or nearly cried when Fred, Lupin, Tonks, Dumbledore, Dobby or Sirius died. Its part of life. Sad, but still part of life. In Twilight we have the deaths of humans used to feed the vampires, Irena (is that her name?), Bree Tanner and a few other, not particularly important characters.The`"Big battle" , where Bella was sure she`d die, turned out as circle time. That was Twilight`s last chance to prove to me it was,about life. Circle time was the most disapointing end to a book I`ve ever read. People can`t go on thinking that death is avoidable, unlike Harry Potter were JK faces death and uses it to make the book interesting.
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FredWRules picked harry potter:
what Lemony said. (even though it was a case of tl=dr.) thanks lemon!!!! :D
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LoopyLuna96 picked harry potter:
What lemony44 said. Harry Potter is about facing fears, Twilight is about how important it is to have a boyfriend.
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MarauderForever picked harry potter:
What I got from HP is:
Forgive your enemies and people in general, because there is always a reason as to why they are where they are. And to always love. There's not enough love in the world. And to look aside prejudices.

Like you have Hufflepuffs, Gryffindors, Ravenclaws, and Slytherins who all have their strengths but alone, they can and will fall. It's not until they gain the school unity that they can really prevail. Examples: Most of Slytherin sided with Death Eaters, and therefore fell with them. Hufflepuff, Ravenclaw, and Gryffindor, stood up against them and won. Harry would've never found the diadem(sp?) of Rowanna Ravenclaw if it wasn't for Luna. Malfoy was saved by Harry, Ron, and Hermione several times and that later helped Harry because Narcissa helped him live when he came back to life.

It shows what goes around comes around. And the Golden rule all in one. Especially that Malfoy example. The trio broke their cycle of hating Malfoy just so they could save his life.

There's more stuff. Making choices, love, death, living life, friends, etc.

Twilight: Showed me how important a boyfriend is in High School and how far jealousy will go and how everyone gets a perfect like in the perfect uiverse. I don't mean that to sound harsh. But it's true.
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ToyletGnome picked harry potter:
I think everyone else has said it all. Harry Potter has great morals and sets a good example for the young readers, whereas Twilight encourages sexism, stereotyping, shallowness and paedophilia. Harry Potter definitely sends a better message, plain and simple.
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cassie-1-2-3 picked harry potter:
Harry Potter teaches values, but I never thought it was required for a story to teach you a life lesson.
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GemonkDruid picked twilight:
^ *cough cough Aesop's Fables cough*

Anyways, books should teach values because impressionable readers learn from them. Several people look up to fictional characters as role models as well as real people.
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cassie-1-2-3 picked harry potter:
People should be less impressionable.

When I write, my stories and poems don't usually have posetive messages. (as in I wouldn't recomend people aim for their lives to be as the lives I create) I would never stop writing just because some people are impressionable.

People should learn to live their lives as they see fit and not how stories direct them.
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GemonkDruid picked twilight:
Unfortunately, it's human nature to be impressionable. Besides, mainly HP is for kids who are naturally impressionable (adults read it too, but they already know about morals and stuff).

Well, not everyone is you.

Yes, but they need to look to people first to know HOW to live their lives, they can't just follow their instincts. They could just follow their parents or any other adult, but fictional characters are convenient.

And you say that people should not learn from stories? Well, what exactly SHOULD they learn from?
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cassie-1-2-3 picked harry potter:
I'm not saying people should never refer to a story as an example to set your morals, but I would think people with the ability to read and understand Harry Potter and Twilight would be smart enough to know what's right and wrong already.

I believe people should learn from just observing, not being influenced. Not doing something or being a certain way, good or bad, because you read it in a book.
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GemonkDruid picked twilight:
"I would think people with the ability to read and understand Harry Potter and Twilight would be smart enough to know what's right and wrong already."

Actually, several of the fans read HP when they were about 6-7, and last I heard, Twilight was a 5-6 grade reading level. Even though a lot of the fans of both are teens, I personally think that people still need to learn morals, especially nowadays. And what better way to find good role models than in a book?

People do observe. They observe the behavior of the characters in books, and the result of their actions. If the result is generally good, then they can follow the characters' general paths and do the right thing.

For example, if a kid in a story stole something, he would get into trouble. That's how you learn. Adults can tell kids what to do and stuff like that, but the kid will never know what happens unless a. he/she experiences it for him/herself (which is good, but might involve risks) or b. he/she looks at what a potential role model would do, and observes the result. Fictional characters are examples of people in real life.
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cassie-1-2-3 picked harry potter:
I guess it depends on what kind of kid you are.
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smallypuppy22 picked harry potter:
Harry potter teaches you about true friendship, honor , courage and of course love. It teaches you that the good is always going to defeat the evil and that you are the one to make your choice between evil and good. Personally I have learned many things with harry potter because it has many good messages but twilight clearly doesn't have any good messages because it shows pedophelia and weakness I mean Bella is really weak and she depends on edward and in the other hand Hermione is clever and practical and never gives up, and Harry is special he's brave and loyal with his friends and he is a real hero who sacrifices his self to save the ones he love. There are also many quotes in harry potter that had teach me good things like "It does not good to dwell on dreams". Harry Potter also teaches you not to judge because of appearences. For example: Many people tohught that Snape was evil but in the end he was loyal to Lily adn Dumbledore.
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rhohani27 picked harry potter:
I agree with everyone who has voted Harry Potter. :)
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Prawls8612 picked harry potter:
Harry Potter has a great message! Twilight's message is to fall in love with someone that might drink your blood and have a kid with them while your 18 becuase you will live forever anyway. WTF is up with that!
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