Harry Potter Vs. Twilight Club
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Reasons why Harry Potter is better:

1. Harry Potter is full of twists and turns and is unpredictable. You can guess basically everything that happens in twilight.
2. In Harry Potter, as the readers grow older, the characters mature too. Is it just me or are the main characters in twilight not aging?
3. No thesauruses were harmed in the making of Harry Potter.
4. So you say Harry Potter is not a love story? Are you saying that parents sacrificing their lives for their child is not love? Are you saying that the bond that keeps friends together forever, even through tremendous danger, is not love? Are you saying that the a person sacrificingthemselvesfor a better future is not love? What is love then?
5. Harry Potter is not an 104-year-old sparkling pedophile.
6. Herry Pottur fanz dont spel liek tihs.
7. J.K.R invented a whole new magical world, unlike S.M, who threw unoriginal mythical characters into the real world.
8. People don't have to worry about killing other people because of the way they smell in Harry Potter.
9. Quidditch. Need I say any more?
10. Harry had it WAY worse than Bella, but he didn't decide to kick the bucket and jump off a cliff, did he?
11. J.K.R can write.
12. Women in Harry Potter areindependentand strong, unlike Bella who can't think for how many months and has to use a person to gain back slight happiness.
13. J.K.R doesn't waste paper by placing only the names of months on how many pages.
14. Harry Potter is not a stalker.
15. Nor does he approve of abusive relationships.
16. No one in Harry Potter whines as much as Bella. Thank goodness.
17. Harry Potter has character development.
18. Robert Pattinson prefers Harry Potter.
19. So does Stephen King.
20. And Evana Lynch.
21. In Harry Potter, people are more than hot pale guys with gorgeous eyes.
22. The lives of Harry Potter females don't revolve around babies and men.
23. Hermione is intelligent. Bella is not.
24. Harry Potter contains humour.
25. J.K.R has no need to use the word 'chagrin' 10 times a chapter.
26. Vampires don't sparkle.
27. Werewolves are werewolves. Not stinking shape-shifters.
28. Harry leaves Ginny, but she doesn't try to have near-death experiences just to hear his voice.
29. Harry Potter has more than 1 plot-line running at once.
30. There are reasons why the evil people in Harry Potter.
31. You couldn't predict the ending of the series of at the end of the first book.
32. J.K.R puts SOME of her own traits in Hermione, where as S.M thinks she IS Bella.
31. Harry Potter includes mythology from all over the world, Twilight vampires can't even turn into bats!
32. Twilight is a fad, Harry Potter is a legend.
33. J.K.R knows what a proper adjective is.
34. When J.K.R uses fancy words, she uses it in the correct context.
35. Harry Potter is British. :D
36. J.K.R can hide major plot points, without telling everyone what is going to happen.
37. I very much doubt J.K.R would leave her spouse for one of her own characters.
38. J.K.R doesn't have typos on every two pages.
39. The main actors/actresses actually have emotions.
40. And can change their facial expressions.
41. J.K.R doesn't need to drop references to classic literature all the time.
42. People don't fall in love with their previous love interest's child.
43. Harry Potter had a real battle, where real action, death, and victory took place. In twilight, all they have is a group of ancient vampires that come and say "oh looks like your not guilty, forgive us for coming over."
44. J.K.R doesn't continuously comment on how hot a character may be.
45. Harry Potter vampires don't fool themselves saying they are vegetarian.
46. Hogwarts over Forks high school any day.
47. Harry Potter readers are not hormone-raging teenagers.
48. Harry Potter vampires and werewolves aren't one-dimensionalshape-shiftersand mutant sparkling fairies.
48. J.K.R actually THOUGHT about her plan before writing.
49. Harry Potter fans actually read the books because they are GOOD and not because they are pressured into reading them by they're crazy fan friends.
50. Edward sparkles. Harry Potter saves the world and is STILL cute.
51.Twilight doesn't have an amusement park.
52. Twilight doesn't have anything that can be USED in an amusement park.
53. You can't read twilight 5 times without noticing a lot of mistakes and over-used points. Harry Potter seems to get more and more exciting the more you read it.
54. J.K.R creates a whole new amazing magical world. S.M takes ideas from other authors and pretends its original.
55. Harry Potter is a great story for ALL ages, and it never gets old. Twilight is aimed at 14-16 year old crazy girls who will eventually dislike it.
56.People liked Harry Potter before the movies came out.
57. Twilight is a (not even) okay romance series, but Harry Potter lives in people's hearts and has made a great impact on people's lives.
58. There are actually REAL reasons why to like Harry Potter. Not just 'zomg hw can u liek compare hp to twilight?!? its ovious twilight is so much bettr coz its a luv story!'
59. J.K.R isn't afraid to sacrifice her important characters. S.M is too scared to.
60. OUR Bella(trix) could kick S.M's Bella's butt.
61. So could Hermione.
62. Even Dobby could.
63. For goodness sake, even WINKY could.
64. Ginny is everything Bella is not.
65. Harry Doesn't love Ginny just because she smells good.
66. No one in Harry Potter falls in love with their crush/lover/boyfriend/girlfriend's CHILD!
67. Harry Potter promotes courage, perseverance, the TRUE love of friends, family etc., and a WHOLE lot more! Twilight promotes teenage pregnancy and marriage + suicidal thoughts after rejection.
68. The women in Harry Potter have their OWN minds and don't do everything their partner tells them to do.
69. Harry doesn't go on and on about how perfect Ginny's body is.
70. Potter fans know how to spell.
71. ...and can prove a CONVINCING argument.
72. ....AND don't threaten murder when someone says they don't like Harry Potter.
73. ....AND can read at a higher-than-4th-grade reading level.
74. It took years of hard work and struggle to get where J.K.R is today...not 3 months as a suburban house-wife dreaming about sparkly vampires.
75. At least 'Albus Severus' can be pronounced.
76. Oh and 'Renesmee Carlie Cullen'? Even Albus Percival Wulfric Brian Dumbledore laughs in his grave.
77. There are actual parental figures in Harry Potter. Absentee adults with the brain mentalities of a 10 year old don't count.
78. Harry Potter fans don't need anger management.
79. Look up 'plot' after 'consistency'.
80. Harry Potter promotes friendship and equality while Twilight promotes changing yourself to fit in.
81. None of the characters in Harry Potter are mindless freaks that are there just for the sake of being there.
82. All of the characters in Harry Potter have small flaws that makethemselves their own unique individuals.
83. Being pale and sparkly are not legitimate character flaws.
84. Abstaining from eating your patients does not make you noble or wise. Therole-modelof the century award goes to Dumbledore.
85. There was a hot debate about whether or not Snape was evil. If S.M had wrote about him, we would've known since his first appearance - his eyes would've been red.
86. The most frightening character in Harry Potter is not a little girl that can pretend to inflict pain on you.
87. Harry's name does not mean 'Beautiful Swan'. Enough said.
88. Even the most obscure Weasleys are better developed than the Cullens....and they're supposed to be the main characters.
89. Harry is more devoted to the parents he has never really met than Bella is to her mother and father that she supposedly 'loves'.
90. Ginny doesn't give birth to a Mentally ill Hippogriff child that Dean Thomas falls in love with.
91. Harry can walk on a flat surface without falling over.
92. The Blacks in Harry Potter would OWN the Blacks in Twilight.
93. A LOT of Harry Potter couples parallel Austen and Bronte more than ANY of the Twilight couples.
94. Vampires don't sparkle. End of sentence.
95. Our Bella has more personality than S.M's Bella.
96. J.K.R took bits of mythology and made it her own.
97. S.M took bits of mythology and ruined it.
98. Harry doesn't sneak into Ginny's room and watch her sleep.
99. Almost all good people in Twilight are beautiful, and the bad people ugly. Rubbish!
100. Harry Potter fans can find 100 legitimate reasons why Harry Potter is better. And more.
101. Harry and Ginny don't have a twisted, controlled, abusive relationship.
102. And being turned into a vampire rocks, because the uncontrollable urge to kill and feed on humans isn't hard to resist, as long as you're Bella.
103. Enemies work together in the last two books. Harry and Voldemort would never work together.
104. Bella has prophetic dreams for no apparent reason. At least we know why Harry has them.
105. Bella is a damsel in distress. The women in Harry Potter can fend off an attack for themselves.
106. Rosalie grew up in New York during the great depression. Her father allowed her family to have a middle-class life because he worked at a bank. S.M didn't realize the entire problem with the great depression was the all the banks failed. She taught thousands of people wrong facts.
107. The Quileutes are an actual tribe that S.M chose to put them in the books because they 'live near forks'. She made mythology for real people.
108. Bella is disturbed when Jacob falls in love with her daughter, but managed to keep in control of herself. Jacob nicknames her child 'Nessie' and she tries to kill him. There is something wrong with her.
109. Bella might have read all the classics, but Hermione could beat her in any test.
110. When people lose the love of their lives in Harry Potter, they don't instantly jump to suicide as a solution.
111. Harry Potter is about REAL love. Hot make-out sessions with vampires don't compare to a man sacrificing his life to the dead love-of-his-life's son.
112. Harry Potter has REAL humour. Not cheesy dark jokes about how different someone is.
113. Bellatrix might have been obsessed with Voldemort, but she wasn't incompetent and she could walk without tripping over her own feet.
114. The Weasley Twins. What more do I have to say?
115. The actors in Harry Potter have more than one facial expression.
116. Bella is so Mary Sue, its like S.M did it on purpose!
117. Dumbledore is gay. This is like a great triumph to the gay community, and a very noble and brave thing for J.K.R to say.
118. It took time for Hermione and Ron (And Harry and Ginny) to fall in love. Hermione didn't just glance at Ron and instantly form an obsession with him.
119. What was the point in rambling on about 'Victoria' then producing a 'fight' in Eclipse as poor and pathetic as it was?
120. What was the point in giving the Volturi all these superhuman powers when they just decide to talk their way out of things?
121. The Death Eaters would easily destroy the Volturi. (Yes, face it, although they are evil, they kill their target rather than running away from it.
122. I would like to see what would happen if someone stole S.M's thesaurus...
123. Harry doesn't get his friends to kidnap Ginny while he goes away.
124. Ginny doesn't almost faint when Harry kisses her.
125. Harry can't always save everyone from fatal experiences.
126. Harry Potter fans seem to come up with better reasons than 'its awesum!!!111'
127. Because there's more to Harry Potter than being 'totally hawt'
128. J.K.R doesn't consistently use overly fancy words to make their readers feel smart for reading her books.
129. Harry Potter doesn't adhere to one religion...you find elements from all sorts of faith.
130. Harry Potter fans can actually for a good argument why the series is better than Twilight.
131. Harry Potter fans don't have to ACT smart. :)
132. J.K.R's flawed characters actually have flaws. Believable ones too.
133. Parodies of Twilight? Better than the actual series. Parodies of Harry Potter? The books are still better.
134. Twilight doesn't have its own totally awesome, full length, fan-made musical. :D
135. Because most people in Harry Potter have fairly normal body temperature.
136. Because Harry Potter isn't a bunch of words grouped randomly.
137. None of the guys in Harry Potter fall in freaky, stalking love with a girl because she smells nice.
138. None of the girls in Harry Potter have the whole population of the school running after them because they are 'new to school'.
139. No one in Harry Potter professes their undying love to a sparkly, albino, pedophile of a control freak stalker with abusive tendencies.
140. J.K.R uses her own ideas.
141. Harry Potter does not make a good door stop.
142. J.K.R writes books related to the series and donates the profit to charity, so by reading Harry Potter, we get a goodSamaritan feel as well.
143. Harry Potter is so deeply ingrained in its hardcore fans that we use spells without realizing we are lowly muggles. :(
144. Harry Potter has more merchandise.
145. Harry Potter turned a whole generation to reading, something the world desperately needed after the rise of video games.
146. Harry Potter has a whole adult cover thing going on because so many adults looked like big kids reading childrens fiction on the train to work.
147. Harry Potter inspired thousands of us to add our own interpretation of the books. What can you do to Twilight?
148. Harry Potter can make you cry, and no, not of unintentional laughter.
149. You are actually alert while reading Harry Potter. You can stay up all night and have no regrets because you know you have just unraveled a bit of the magic.
150. Because 150 reasons just isn't enough.
added by TeamSiriusBlack
Source: A website that I forgot the name of... >.>
posted by HaleyDewit
Bella
My name is Bella and there’s something I need to tell
I’m dating this cute vampire, he’s just hot as hell
He’s fascinated by my none existing mind
And I fall apart whenever I stare in those liquid topaz eyes

Edward
My name is Edward and there’s something I need to say
Bella’s gonna freak when she finds out I’m gay
But I can clearly understand what she sees in me
Because have you ever met someone this perfectly

Bella
I used to live in Phoenix, but now moved to this rainy place
I keep whining about it and I always have the same expression on my face
I’m just a little girl who’s helpless...
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Okay. I know what you are all thinking. Oh no not another Harry Potter vs. Twilight article but yes I am making one because I can. I just want my opinion to be heard. So first off let me list the reasons why children, teens and adults can love Harry Potter and the good messages that Harry Potter gets across. Harry Potter first of all teaches people about the very special bond between people called friendship. Harry, Hermione and Ron are a perfect example of friendship. They are all with Harry until the very end like they promised. They risk their lives for each other and even though they fight,...
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1. Join an orchestra.
[i] You're inside, anyway.....

2. Join an opera.
He has a good voice...right?

3. Go to a tanning salon.
Who wants to be pale all their life?

4. Leave home.
You're a hundred and something and STILL living with your parents. How does that feel?

5. Travel.
Yeah, the sparkling thing pops that bubble a bit, but what are parasols for?

6. Discover...SUNSCREEN.
It protects you from the sun. Shocking, eh?

7. Begin a knitting business.
Creativity is key. You can still stay inside, and make money. Plus, you make friends with the rest of the sweet little old people in the knitting club.

8.Start...
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I'm adressing the rabid Twilight fans if they would listen. I'm also adressing the common fans of both sides of this debate.

There are some things one may and may not do in a formal debate unless one wants to look like - pardon the language - a freaking donkey.

Nr 01: One may not argue against the debaters points by attacking him or her. This is called argumentum ad hominem and is a fallacy. For example: If I am to argue that free elections is wrong and states that the arguer is an imbecile that does not deserve the right to vote, then I have committed a severe personal attack and will be frowned...
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posted by Athiya
Many of you might have noticed that the golden trio from Harry Potter (Harry, Ron, and Hermione) had always been paired up to fight with the not-so-golden trio of Twilight (Edward, Jacob, and Bella). Now, XDRoseLuvsHP had pointed out a great deal on why HP trio would win against the Twilight's (you can find it link), so I figured perhaps it's time for the villains to battle.

My first thought was off course, James and Voldemort; but then, it didn't seem fair on the Twilight side. James was not a very good villain; his character was poorly underdeveloped and his powers weren't very outstanding...
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This is a (long) rebuttal to KatiiCullen94's argument, the title of which is in is article's title. (Though you've probably all seen that by now.) I haven't included her points in this, so it will be necessary to read her article first.

1. The majority of people in this world cannot relate to Bella. Tell me, how many people can go to a new school and automatically be the prettiest and most popular girl there? How many girls can say that they have FIVE males lusting after them?

Bella does care for people other than herself - her boyfriend. That's it. She was perfectly happy to hurt her father...
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This is my last article and as you may know I never really came here to argue, just to figure out what was going on in Twilight-Haters heads.


Bella- Whiny and Moany ?
Everyone says that Bella is so whiney and the point is so what if she ? I am sure if we went into your heads ,you would be as moany as her. She complains about the attention she is recieving from boys. I would too it would totally creep me out if suddenly I moved to a new school and everybody likes me.
The friend problem: Jessica is not a good friend after being to 9 schools so far I have met people like this and only can I comment...
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posted by DivyaHarry
Firstly, this is not my article. I found it over the internet and pasted it here because I find it really hard to believe that there are people like this in the world who are completely ignorant or just plain stupid.

The e-mail was apparently from Kayla Patterson, a die hard Twilight/Taylor Lautner fan upset about Universal Pictures ripping off the werewolf idea from Twilight.

To whom this may concern:

This movie was a complete waste and I feel that it offends ALL Twilight Fans around the world, that including myself. For one, it was a COMPLETE remaking of the Wolf Pack from the Twilight Saga:...
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Hmm... this could take a while. Haha, I have a lot of reasons for my strong dislike of Twilight. Before I start, I'd just like to explain that I was once a Twilight fan, so I've read all the books and stuff, but I just can't stand it anymore. Therefore, I can give a more complete explanation of my views. Sorry if it's really ridiculously long.

First reason I hate Twilight: the media. Twilight, in all honesty, isn't a great book. I have read worse books (though not many... Twilight was pretty bad). However, if Twilighters and Twilight articles and such weren't all "OMG ITS THE MOST AMAZING SERIES...
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Voldemort is notorious for his fear of death. To avoid death, he is willing to kill innocent people and destroy his very soul.

Now, everyone with any sense knows that Bella is a Mary Sue, and Stephenie Meyer desperately wants to be Bella. I even personally know quite a few Twilight fans who realize and accept this. And what does Bella want? She wants to become a vampire.

Here is some commonly known knowledge about vampires (according to Meyer):

-Kill innocents for survival
-Practically immortal
-Possibly lose their souls, though this is not known for sure

We see Voldemort killing innocents for survival....
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Okay now I will begin off with something that has really begin to get on my nerve. How Twilight fans write out their articles on why they like Twilight. Not just articles other things too. I will give you and example of one: "For people.....blah blah blah." Like these. Who are they directing these too exactly? I know some the title says it, but they expect only those sort of people to respond. Pff yeah right. I see that kind of title I go in and see what kind moronic things they have to say.

Most Twilight fans I see on this site lack the skills in proper grammar. Okay first if you ever want...
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This article was actually wriiten by an ex-twilighter(iloveyoudarling), not me, and i dont like the way she wrote it, cuz it is kinda rude, but i posted it so that maybe some twilighters here could consider giving harry potter a chance because the article proves that even though you love twilight there COULD be a better book out there:
Dear Twilight fans,

I was you one day. Addicted to Twilight and couldnt ever stop reading it even if i had already read it 4 times. But trust me on this one will you. READ ANOTHER BOOOK!!! AFTER YOU DO THAT TWILIGHT WILL SEEM LIKE A STUPID ROMANCE STORY.

After...
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added by narniafreak12
This article was NOT written by me. I found this somewhere else as a comment and thought it was great and that it should be shared. Don't give any credit to me. I just copy pasted.

First of all- Harry Potter isn’t just a childish bedtime story. Nor is it shallow. A story based off a single dream has no depth. Twilight fans will never what kind of man James was before he turned vampire. Rowling, however, spent 15 years planning every little detail. She created a world within our own for her witches and wizards. She has based their heritage off of real mythology and history. Their spells are...
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I'll tell you my story. I love Harry Potter. For all the right reasons. So one day my friend loans me his Twilight DVD and the horror began.

I didn't like the movie. I thought the actors were too forced and forgot to take acting lessons but it was a laugh. I then realized that this horror was a series of books. My bookworm friend had all the books and I borrowed it from her for a bit of light reading(*grin*).

All would have been fine and I wouldn't have existed on this site had it not been for the words she showed me on the back of the book that said 'Move over Harry Potter'. I lost my remaining...
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posted by XDRoseLuvsHP
I've been seeing this question a lot lately. Twilight fans don't know what is wrong with Bella. I have written this article in order to try to explain exactly what is wrong with Bella. There are actually many things wrong with her, as I will be explaining in this article.

The first thing I will acknowledge is the mental instability of Bella Swan. In New Moon, Edward dumps her, and she becomes depressed. Now, I understand that it is very disheartening to have your boyfriend dump you. I would be able to understand if she had been depressed for, maybe two weeks? No more than a month. But Bella...
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hers ther link

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51. Your reason made no sense at all, I think you probably tried to say that it isnt that good

52. This is not a reason, this is just a bunch of harry potter people having dialouge

53. This person is not really saying anything except that they shouldn't be compared and the person just likes the book but she doesnt think that harry potter is better

54. They just dissed twilight and they don't think that harry potter is better

55. Ilike 5 different guys at the same time too: fred, lupin, harry, ron, arthur
anyways just b/c u lik the guys doesnt make it beter, wat do u mean fall in...
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Okay. I know what you are all thinking. Oh no not another Harry Potter vs. Twilight article but yes I am making one because I can. I just want my opinion to be heard. So first off let me list the reasons why children, teens and adults can love Harry Potter and the good messages that Harry Potter gets across. Harry Potter first of all teaches people about the very special bond between people called friendship. Harry, Hermione and Ron are a perfect example of friendship. They are all with Harry until the very end like they promised. They risk their lives for each other and even though they fight,...
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posted by TeamSiriusBlack
    Ok, well I’m getting pretty tired of people saying that Bella and Edward’s relationship is love. It’s not. It’s just lust. Let’s look at the clues:
-She sees him and thinks he’s gorgeous.
-He likes her smell.
-He’s a vampire.
    Now, before I start writing about these points, I would like to compare the relationship to that of Snape and Lily. Yes, they have never gone out but they didn’t need to. Snape met Lily when they were little. He probably thought she was pretty and developed a crush on her which bloomed into love. When Snape found...
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