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posted by XDRoseLuvsHP
I've been seeing this question a lot lately. Twilight fans don't know what is wrong with Bella. I have written this article in order to try to explain exactly what is wrong with Bella. There are actually many things wrong with her, as I will be explaining in this article.

The first thing I will acknowledge is the mental instability of Bella Swan. In New Moon, Edward dumps her, and she becomes depressed. Now, I understand that it is very disheartening to have your boyfriend dump you. I would be able to understand if she had been depressed for, maybe two weeks? No more than a month. But Bella is depressed for several months. This is NOT normal. Bella has serious depression, and I mean the actual mental illness. Her father probably should have taken her to a psychologist. If unattended, depression can lead to suicide. This, however, is not the reason Bella attempts suicide. Later on, she starts hearing Edward's voice in her head. The voice comes whenever she is about to do something reckless. This is a very serious condition called schizophrenia. If you know someone with schizophrenia, they should be taken immediately for help. It is this illness that drove Bella to attempt suicide. There is also evidence of her having Narcissistic Personality Disorder (compensatory). This is because she feels a need for attention at all times. In New Moon, as soon as Jacob starts giving her all the attention he has, she felt better. She gropes for attention constantly. It is even arguable that her clumsiness may in fact be a need for attention. She must have an ideal relationship (in her mind), and that is actually a symptom of this disorder. She does not feel for anybody except the Cullens and Jacob. She does not feel for her friends, she does not feel for her parents, she does not feel for anyone unworthy of her attention. She is arrogant and she takes advantage of her friends, then blames them if they don't want to continue the friendship. These are all signs of Narcissistic Personality Disorder, and I believe that the compensatory classification fits her best (that is passive-aggressive, with signs of Avoidant Personality Disorder). Avoidant Personality Disorder is another thing Bella may have. She is very sensitive to negative comments about herself and she is extremely inhibited in fear of humiliation (though I still hold my argument of her need for attention). She doesn't talk a lot (though this is not because of shyness, but because she sees most other people as below her) and she definitely uses escapism. This leads to Passive-Aggressive Personality Disorder. She sees everyone else as below her, thinking that her fellow classmates, who went out of their way to welcome her to Forks, are shallow, immature idiots who are not worth her time. She does hint this to them at some points throughout the story. This may also be an explanation as to why she mistreats her friends. She has Histrionic Personality Disorder because of her need for attention and her intense sexual desire for Edward (which is ALL it is. To like someone for only their looks is NOT love) and she does have shallow, over-exaggerated emotions. Another thing Bella shows VERY strong evidence of having is Dependent Personality Disorder. You can see this by her reaction to Edward dumping her. Her depression arose because of her psychological need for Edward (not to be mistaken for love).

Wow, I even shocked myself by how messed up Bella is in her head.

Bella is very shallow. She "loves" Edward because... he's hot. That's it? She never talks about his personality. She only talks about his "liquid topaz eyes", something she's explained only about a few hundred times, amongst other physical appearances. She wants to be a vampire because she wants to be beautiful like Edward. She even admits it herself in Eclipse. That is the strongest reason for her desire for becoming a vampire. That is extremely vain. She thinks that all good people are beautiful. That is a very shallow thought, and it says some pretty nasty things about her sense of judgment (though we all know that is not too good because of all the bad decisions she makes throughout the books).

Bella abuses her friends. She takes them for granted and only talks to them when it will be for her advantage. Here's a common example; Jessica. Jessica welcomes her warmly and adopts her into her group of friends when Bella first arrives at Forks High School. What does she get in return? Bella thinking how shallow and idiotic she is? Then, Bella doesn't speak to Jessica or anybody else for months after Edward leaves her. Her father threatens to take her to a psychiatrist unless Bella becomes more social. That is the only reason she speaks to Jessica again. She goes to the movies, completely tuning Jessica out and ignoring the girl, then goes and puts herself and Jessica in potential danger because she wants to hear Edward's voice. This is selfish and completely stupid. Jessica stays behind with Bella, even though she (just) figured out that Bella has only been using her. So what happens? Bella says that she is a bad friend because she wouldn't talk to Bella again. Where's the logic in that? Don't even get me started on Jacob. She leads him on every other day, even after everything he did for her in New Moon, and then, the day after she snogged him, when he is in great physical pain, she dumps him. Yes, she feels sorry for a couple of minutes. She's felt sorry for a couple of minutes constantly, then felt that justified her right to use him all over again. She does not care about him, no matter what she claims.

Bella has an extremely undeveloped character. She has no life. What are her hobbies? Can you name me just one? No, motorcycling does NOT count. Bella doesn't really like motorcycling and was going to give it up had she not wanted to "please" (more like lead on) Jacob. So... what is there? Reading doesn't count either, I'm afraid. That is another example of Stephenie Meyer telling, but not showing. We only see Bella actually reading one (1) time throughout the series, and that is very briefly at the very beginning of Eclipse. So we don't have any hobbies for her. Then, she is utterly Mary Sue. Where are her character flaws? No, clumsiness does NOT count as a character flaw. Flawless characters are very bad. They are almost always bound to be an utter fail. Bella is automatically popular when she arrives at school, which is extremely unlikely and unrealistic. She is strikingly beautiful, and she ends up becoming the most beautiful and most "powerful" vampire ever to exist. She doesn't have to work at her special diet; she's a natural! She gets everything handed to her on a silver platter. She works for nothing, she sacrifices nothing. Also, have you noticed that her character description fits perfectly into what Stephenie Meyer looks like? Bella is screaming "author self-insert". In Breaking Dawn, it goes into Jacob's POV (point of view). Bella is suddenly found saying "oh, everything will be okay" and with a "life is wonderful!" attitude. Where did that come from? For the entire series, Bella has been the first one to say "WE'RE ALL GONNA DIE!" Once we go back into Bella's POV, that pessimistic attitude comes right back. So where did the sudden burst of happiness come from?

She is also a very bad parent. She ignores her baby to make love to Edward. She doesn't care that Jacob uncharacteristically became a pedophile, lusting after her new-born daughter. No, she gets angry because she doesn't like the nickname he gave her; another example of her deadly superficiality. Most of the time, she just gives Renesmee to Jacob to look after. When does she ever do anything to actually take care of Renesmee herself? All she does is come in occasionally to admire the child, then go right back to ignoring her.

So, I hope I've made my point. There are many things wrong with Bella Swan. I hope you enjoyed my article :)
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The Cullens are weird. Not in a vampiric sense but in common sense. They are trying to stay camouflaged but they keep failing. Lets review, shall we?

1. They go to high school over and over again. They try to blend in with the other non-sparkly, non-Adonis(y), non-vampiry and nonsensical humans. Aside from this, they pout in the cafeteria during lunch hour. Why? They could just eat their lunch elsewhere. They don't eat, so it's unlikely that no one has noticed them not eating.

2. High school is a crowded place. People keep bumping into each other at some point. Let's say the Cullens are very...
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I see a lot of Twiight fans arguing the same points over and over again, and frankly, they have no idea what they're talkinng about.

First I'd like to point out:

Some Twilight fans are saying that they are confused with Harry Potter because they haven't read the books and the movies don't explain clearly enough. Well, guess what, that does not make Twilight better than Harry Potter, it is not out fault you haven't read Harry Potter. When we argue Harry Potter vs. Twilight I was under the impression that we were including both books and movies, not just the movies. So the fact that your confused...
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I suspect I'm not the only one, am I? XD...... Anyways, you know you're obsessed with Bellatrix when....
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1. You throw away all of your hairbrushes.

2. You wear at least some black every day.

3. You rip your clothes on purpose.

4. You call people you don't like "filthy mudbloods".

5. You yell "CRUCIO!" at people when you get mad.

6. You carry knives on your person

7. Your desktop background and screensaver are of Bellatrix.

8. Whenever you're typing a word that starts with a "B" or an "L", you accidentally type out a Bellatrix or a Lestrange instead.

9. You think her birthday should...
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I found this online. It's a real conversation a bookstore employee apparently had with a Twilight fan. It didn't happen to me. I found it funny, thought you guys might too.

(A customer in her late teens approaches me in the bookstore.)
Customer: “Hey, do you guys sell the Twilight books?”
Me: “Yes, they’re right over there.”
Customer: “Have you read them?”
Me: “Yes, I have.”
Customer: “Didn’t you just LOVE them?!”
Me: “Well, actually, they aren’t really my type of book, so–”
Customer: *suddenly furious* “Are you f***ing serious?! These are the best books ever written! I’m going to tell Edward to come and bite you and drink all your blood!”
Me: *backing away* “Have a nice day, ma’am…”
posted by ilovereading
I was thinking about difference in Harry Potter and Twilight background and this is what I concluded. Enjoy!

Knowledge of magical beings not soo very far from their backyards
Harry Potter: As I can get from HP books and The Tales of Beedle the Bard, wizarding world was known to Muggles, but because of witch hunt and victims of it in both sides, wizard decided to go underground and not to be commonly know to people. They don`t use spells in front of Muggles and if sombody does manage to discover their secret, they erase their memory.
However, there are exeptions. Families of Mugle-borns ofcourse...
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posted by june13
were are you harry asked ron over here can't you see me am right in front of you.
no i cant see you it's so drak a cat even could not see in here.

hah ron very funny, lets try to find a light swicht for you can see.
ron i found one. well then turn it one then
i am don't worry

boo am going to suck your owls blood.
right then the sun came toungt the window and then edward begin to spark

look harry this vamiper sparks how sad is that.

ron is he waring girls cothing
yay i think he is

no am not but am in love with a human girl

harry and ron at the same time laghed them selfed silly

and that's the end of this fine story
THIS IS JUST MY PERSONALL OPINION, FEEL FREE TO DISAGREE, THIS IS JUST WHAT I THINK, NOT THE ENTIRE POPULATION OF TWILIGHT FANS. SO PLEASE UNDERSTAND THIS IS MY PERSONAL OPINION!!!!!!

Thank you.

Just so you know, this is a Twilight fan speaking.

Twilight may NOT be the best book ever, i didnt say that it was (keep that in mind), when i read it, i saw alot of flaws, like in breaking dawn, Meyer made it clear that vamps cant inject sperm, and yet, somehow Bella got pregnant. I've read this article by XDRoseLuvsHP, and i totaly agree. I believe that People like Twilight more thatn HP because it...
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For all of you who don't know this, but I am an ex-Twilight fan. This my own personal opinion based on my personal experience with the series. For all of the Twilight fans who may be reading this right now, you have been warned. So here I go:

When in the course of normal, non-brainwashed leader events, it becomes necessary to dissolve the addiction of the highly “popular” teen-craving novel which have been oppressive to the efforts to differentiate the normal and the abnormal fantasy to which people, generally females, dreamed of, decent respect to the creativity based on the author's dream...
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posted by bakura1234
It has a PLOT! It has Subplots.It has several characters with depth.JK is not afraid to sacrifice the good guys. The characters aren't one dementional. JK researches her material, has good use of Latin and history within her books. Spells are named after Latin words and do what the Latin words do. Names of soem characters give hints as to what that character is such as Sirius which means Dog Star for more Albus which means White (pure wizard). You can relate Harry Potter to WWII because of similarities you could learn some history from the books.
Harry Potter teaches a good deal about prejudice...
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posted by Kersian
Okay this is more of an opinion, since my view of the activity is based off opinion.

Now whenever someone posts something on the internet and someone else responds negatively to it, they respond in the same way to that person. In a very negative tone. This is in fact what I see at times in forums.

First Twilight and Harry Potter fans, if you post anything on the internet, whether they are opinions or facts, you have responsibilities with it. You are exposing yourself to others in the internet. You are responsible for the positive or negative replies. So don't blame others for your actions....
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