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posted by yemi_hikari
Everyone knows Rowling and Meyer's stance on fanfiction and the fact both writers have given a thumbs up of sorts. However, there is something I don't think either one of them would of approve of and it involves those Reading the Books a lot of people are supposedly writing. I say supposedly writing because copying from another persons work is not writing unless you are quoting under fair use. And boy... every single Reading the Books I've come across is not in fair use and constitutes plagiarism. I know how to write one that doesn't constitute plagiarism, but I'll save that until the end.

One of the arguments I've seen is that it is just fanfiction so it doesn't matter if they are committing plagiarism and copyright infringement in their stories because it is just for fun. However, when you publish something to the net it is not just for fun anymore. When a person is found out to have plagiarized the rest of their work will come under question about whether or not it is also stolen or not. That is unless your a really young writer who hasn't yet learned what plagiarism is and then people are more willing to give you a second chance. This is because plagiarists tend to be serial in what they do rather then sticking to just one piece.

The second argument is that fanfiction can't be called out for plagiarism because it is a copyright issue and to call fanfiction out on a copyight issue is to call into question the entire work as fanfiction uses copyrighted material. I am going to point out here that copyright infringement and plagiarism are two different things. Copyright infringement means you used the material without the persons permission and plagiarism means you stole the persons work and passed it off as your own. For example, you can plagiarize Shakesphere and any of the other works that have fallen into public domain. Since no one has the copyright nobody can take you to court for plagiarizing the work because it is the copyright holder that gets the money in a lawsuit.

The third argument comes from the fact some people believe disclaiming the work means you haven't committed plagiarism and you can't get in trouble for plagiarism. link ]Plagiarism.org[/url] puts it well. Under their list of things that are considered plagiarism it lists ”copying so many words or ideas from a source that it makes up the majority of your work, whether you give credit or not (see our section on "fair use" rules)”.

So how much is to much? Some people may remember their teachers telling them that if their work is thirty percent or less then the writer is within fair use. I'm going to point out that this is for essays and not creative writing. There isn't an exact percentage, but it should be under one percent of your work when it comes to copyrighted material and even that can be too much as two to four lines per chapter is also an added limit. So what does this in fact mean? It means that the majority of the Reading the Books fanfics consitute plagiarism.

Some may say, but I paraphrased the books so I should be fine. Here is another quote from the site I gave you from the list. It includes, “changing words but copying the sentence structure of a source without giving credit” and the whole copying to much from the original source in fact also counts despite having changed the wording around and paraphrased the work And here some people may be thinking, but I use the characters so that is plagiarism right? Nope. As I've said, copyright infringement is different from plagiarism.

The disclaimers may not save you when you take the actual words, but when you admit to borrowing the concepts from the books your covered. Unless of course the writer decides to not allow people to write fanfiction for their stories and they are going to push forward their right to be the sole person to create derivative works off their work. The exception to the rule is parody as parody is protected under fair use.

The Reading the Books issue is an epidemic and it isn't restrained to just the Harry Potter and the Twilight fandoms. A lot of people claim that banning Reading the Books stories from sites infringes upon their freedom of speech or their creative freedom forgetting that what they are doing is infringing upon the rights of someone they are supposed to be a fan of in the first place. Those who write Reading the Books or support them in some manner are in the wrong, not the site admins, not the writer nor the people calling them out for what they are doing.

That said, it is possible to write an actual Reading the Books fanfic. I refuse to call the stuff that I've been finding fanfic because as I've pointed out, copying someone else work is not writing. Some people are probably thinking it is impossible, but then they are not thinking outside of the box.

Avoid quoting and paraphrasing the work. Particularly don't do it on sites where copying is not allowed at all. You can write sentences like “Lily read the book until she got to what a brat her sister's son was.” Do not fill your work with the above sentences but instead make each chapter a focal point around one of these sentences. For example, Lily might storm over to her sister and lecture her about how to properly take care of kids for one chapter.

Some people may say, but that defeats the purpose of the Reading the Books. As I am going to point out, the stuff that is being put out is not writing but is instead all over the place. The writers are throwing jokes left and right and the works are unfocused, not to mention so many of them are exactly the same because they are following the same restrictive structure rather then actually thinking outside of the box.

I look forward to seeing a legit Reading the Books fanfic made, because it will showcase the writers potential a whole lot more rather then the writer relying on another writers words as a crutch. So, while I'll defend the idea behind the Reading the Book fanfic I refuse to defend the ones that have been deleted from sites for obvious reasons. Support the writers of Reading the Books who are doing the right thing instead of the ones who aren't.
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posted by LilRavenclaw95
These are the weirdest, saddest Twilight defenses on the planet. *NOTE: I have nothing against reasonable Twilight fans, but ones like this? *facepalm*

Tiwlite deost scuk jew bichezz!!!!!1!!” twilite iz da beste buck i hav evar red in mi lief!!!! so wat if inot have red so maney bks in my lief!! i actualey hav ay lieff and bukks hapen to b four peeple wizout eny frends!!!!!!!1111 sou dant juzt PRUVVEZ hou gud twilit iz!!!!!!!!! adn anuzer ding i am sexteen not twelve adn i reeli LUVE TWAILITE wish usst PRUVVEZ it iz four mature, enteliggent peepolnot like hary poter dat is juzt four lusers...
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posted by one_a_kind4ever
Harry Potter vs. Twilight has always been an argument. I believe that Harry Potter is obviously the upper hand in my opinion. Both stories are both interesting and entertaining but the problem is deciding if one is better.

Harry Potter was written with an amazing storyline and many people have followed it for many years and even dress up for the premiers. In the eyes of danger Harry and his friends risk their lives to save their world from falling apart. The story takes seven books to tell their story. Each book is filled with adventure and a new lesson that Harry learns. Fans of the series...
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It was the time between the fourth and fifth Harry Potter books and right after Bella leaves Jacob for Edward in the Twilight series when IT happened.
James, the evilest of the evil, had no money. He knew his antagonist part required him to have money. He needed money. There was only one thing to do....
He stepped into the swirling nothingness, and seconds later turned up in a gloomy, slimy hallway. "Are you here, Lord Voldemort?"
The dark shape slid out of the shadow. "More money, James?" He said cooly. "We may both be the antagonists of our books, but you do owe me...."
"OWE YOU WHAT!?"...
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posted by june13
We all been asking since this culb stared who would win the fight Harry Potter or Edward Cullen. First it mattereds if Harry has is wand wish it would come avange of him in a way and if Edward had Bella or not she would come a distracing to him lets start.
Harry has is wand and Edward does not have Bella. But Edward can read his man but since he does not know what the spells do it will not help at all and Edward has got speed that will help him out alot becouse he can get a way from the spell so they both got disavanges and avanges so it just may be a tie
posted by AstridGoof8219
There once was a young adult woman named Astrid. One day in Spring 2008, her good friend, Rhonda visited her. She told Astrid about this book series called Twilight, Rhonda said that she read the books and that they were really good. Astrid then went to Borders and bought the three books. When she got home, she opened up the first book and started to read away. Astrid then decided that she liked it too. A day later, she read New Moon, only this time, Astrid didn't like it as much as Twilight. Wishing to continue reading after the slight disliking, she read Eclipse hoping it would be better...
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posted by luv_warriorcatz
lets say that bella and hermione were off friends (really off). Hermione is at hogwarts where she is happy and bella is at forks with her vamp buddies where she is happy. And they know each other's secrets. One day, Hermione wrote bella a letter.

Dear Bella Swan,

I have heard about your acts in Forks and how your boyfriend, edward broke up with you. I feel really sorry for you. Then you found him again in Volterra, Italy and you started going out with him again. My opinion might not matter in this but I feel as if I should tell you about this. I am afraid that you might be a little bit obssessive....
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