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Over-all, the movie wasn't that bad. It stuck very, very close to the book (like, literally taking lines straight), with the exception of one or two parts, so Breaking Dawn fans will absolutely love it. But, even if you're like me and hated Breaking Dawn, the movie was still pretty enjoyable. Definitely not unbearable. The effects were great, the music was awesome, and Kristen kicked major ass. There was humor (because Charlie was there), there was drama, and there was even an awesome fight scene. (One-and-a-half, really.)

Spoiler-y Opinions
Liked:
-The one-liners.
    Charlie's “are those graduation caps.” That would be a great tie-in for when Charlie finds out about the Cullens in part two.
    Jess' “do you think she's gonna show?” and her comment about the size of the wedding cake.
    Charlie's “you needed something old. Well, besides your mom.”

-The toast speeches.

-Jasper's facial expressions. Especially is “WTF bro?” look at Emmett for his double entrendre toast, and his “wait...what?” look at Carlisle when Carlisle announces that there's a bag of blood in the fridge. And his various creeper grins for no reason throughout the movie.

-Carlisle and Esme scenes. For someone who doesn't speak a lot, Esme shows some pretty intense chemistry with Carlisle.

-Seth. I didn't think it was possible for him to be more adorkable than he was in the books, but he managed to pull it off. I just... really want to shrink him down, keep him in my pocket, and carry him around forever.

-The special effects. Kudos for doing just a good a job as Captain America in making someone who's not scrawny and sickly into someone who believably is. My mom honestly thought Kristen had gone anorexic or something for the role.

-The fight at the end between the Quileutes and the Cullens.

-Jacob's trick to allow Carlise, Esme, and Emmett to go hunting.

-Mike, Eric, Alice, and Jasper dancing at the wedding.

-The soundtrack. The music for the series is always great, but this one just took the cake. The music that played while Bella decides she wants to keep Renesme was just absolutely brilliant.

-Edward frantically trying to resuscitate Bella. Rob actually moved me with that performance. Kinda.

-Kristen's acting. Yeah, I said it. She was phenomenal here as Bella.

-Brotherly wrestling under Bella's window. We hardly (in the movies, anyway) get to see Edward, Jasper, and Emmett interact, and seeing them act like normal brothers (and guys) was cute.


Didn't Like:
-Lautner and Reaser's acting. I don't know what it was. Dialogue? New Director? New writer? Bad day on set? I don't know – but their lines were just stilted, flat, and awkward. And Lautner just really didn't get to me while he sobbed outside. I was more entranced by Jacob's wonderful leather jacket and Reaser's absurdly large forehead than I was by their acting. (Which is crazy, because I normally like Lautner way more than Rob, but that all switched this movie.)

-The imprinting scene. I knew there was no way to do that without being really corny. It was written as an internal monologue, and those are pretty hard to portray (unless it's a play). But it wasn't the cheesiness that got me – it was the creepiness factor. When Jacob thinks of Renesme, he doesn't see a little child in need of protection (like it was sort of done in the book), he sees this a much older woman (maybe early twenties?) who he would do anything for. It was just squicky.

-Edward forgetting for about five minutes that Bella needed vampire venom. In the book, there isn't much time for Edward to get the venom. In the movie, he stands and holds Renesme for around five minutes, cooing over her, before Bella dies. And then, he takes another few minutes trying to resuscitate her before reaching for the venom.

-The implied “Sue's sleeping with Billy and Charlie.” Sue and Charlie's relationship was never really expanded upon, so we never really get a feel for how serious they were. But I'm pretty sure they were serious enough that Billy didn't think he had a chance, and Sue wasn't seen traipsing back and forth between the two houses.

-Stephenie Meyer in the movie. I've had this problem before. It's not a problem of Stephenie, I just dislike when authors put themselves in their movies.

-Edward telling Bella about his past the night before the wedding. Mostly because it served no purpose. Readers already knew that, and non-readers didn't need to know. Edward tells Bella he killed murders (for no apparent reason, since he knew it wasn't going to change her mind about marrying him, and she kind of knew that already), and it was never brought up again. It was just some really awkward “hey, let's remind everyone that Edward is a killer to kill time” type of scene.

-Changing the wolves voices while shifted. I understand Sam's voice changing, since he's the alpha. I can understand Jacob's voice because he's the beta-turned-alpha. But the others? We don't know very much about the Quileutes, and the only recognition we have for them are faces and voices (except Sam, Leah, Seth and Jacob, who we can recognize in wolf form). It just served to confuse people and made it harder to keep track of who was who.

-Rob's trouble with his speaking/accent. I swear, I thought the first line he spoke was “I was just checking for coffee.” It wasn't until they started talking about the wedding that I realized he had said “cold feet.” He does this a couple of times throughout the movie. It doesn't take away from the movie, it's just a pet peeve of mine. Especially since Rob is usually good about his accent and speaking clearly.

-Bella and Edward getting out of the car, to walk into the middle of the street, just to make out. Much like the "I'm a killer, Bella" scene, it just didn't serve any purpose. At all. It wasn't fluffy romantic, because they spent more time showing what was happening around Bella and Edward than they did focused on the two. And because they didn't even honeymoon in Rio, and they still had to get back to the car to get to the boat.
posted by KateKicksAss
**If Twilight HAD gone this way, we wouldn't have gotten past book one!**


Bella: *walking into Forks High School* Oh, look, that guy is kind of hot. His name's Edward? Oh well, who cares anyway? There's more to life than hot guys. Or guys in general.

Bella: Oh, look, i'm really popular for some reason. Well, these people seem okay. I'll be a good friend, and not ignore people or treat them like crap, and DEFINITELY not ditch them to hang out with my some guy.

Edward: I love you Bella. Hey, wanna go out with me?

Bella: Um, creepy much? *sigh* Fine, i'll go out with you.

Bella: Okay, you're nice...
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posted by Aquilia
Oh do you not see, the language so cruciated,
By your most unfortunate attempt in grammars?
Do you believe, for that moment that we're mirthed?
Well, then you are as mistaken as the Balaclava Brits.

Don't you see, your own insults to your common decency?
Do you not hear, our desperate attempts to save your sanity?
I hope you hear, I must hope you see.
But I think, you only see your vanity.

Vanity, vanity, everything vanity...
But then where are your humanity? The World wonder'd...

Dedicated to iluvtwilight, ellietwilight12 and every other rabid fan in the whole wide world. I plead to you: Stop this madness...

Inspiration: Alfred, Lord Tennyson; the Charge of the Light Brigade
Okay so first of i am going to say again i am a fan of both.But if you would ask me what i like better i think it would probably be Harry Potter.But i want to hear out why do YOU dislike/hate(tho hate it's to of a strong word for a book/movie)Twilight.I want solid arguments not such as : cause the vampires there sparkle , like this Twilight fans could just say 'because Harry has a scar' or 'because they go to a school of magic' or 'because all death eaters are black(mostly)' i mean these are arguments just so you can say something.I tend to believe these days people hate/dislike Twilight just because others do.And i will ask you nicely and be thankful if you could tell me why you don't like it at all/hate it.
Dear Stephenie Meyer,
First I would like to thank you for taking the time to read my letter. It means a lot to me. In this letter, I would like to explain why I do not like the Twilight series and how it did have room for improvment.
The main problem I had with the series is how Bella and Edward's love is shown to be ideal, when in fact, it's unhealthy. Throughout the books, we do not get any insight on their hobbies and likes/dislikes. The problem with this is that we do not know if Edward or Bella share any common interests to be considered perfect for each other. In fact, they only had...
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posted by GemonkDruid
Twilight fans, this is a debate spot. So DEBATE. There are a few issues I see at this spot concerning you guys:

- Saying it's better because Edward/Jacob is hot

Okay, those kind of arguments are instantly invalid, coz beauty is subjective and depends on one's perspective. Also, can you actually SEE what they look like in the book series? Nope. And the inside of the person is what really counts.

- Saying it's better coz it's a love story

What Bella and Edward have is not love, it's infatuation. They only like each other because of how the other person looks like/smells. They never chit-chat like...
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When me and my friend Fiona were in the sixth grade, we decided to write a fanfiction about the Twilight characters going to Hogwarts. (We were both major Twilight fans then.) I wasn't the best writer in those days, so the beginning of the fanfic isn't great, but it gets better as we go along.
You'll notice that our seprate entries can get a bit confusing at times, and that's because we were writing by e-mail because she lives six hours away from me, and we were just making it up as we went along. Fiona is writing about the character Peace, and I am using the character that I use for EVERYTHING,...
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posted by rangarajvignesh
The World is flat!
    Well, I know you question my sanity, now. Obviously, the world is round and that’s a proven fact, from the moment Galileo stepped out of his ship. And now, there’s a question again. Is the World really round? I hate that word, really. The word which gives rise to a lot of questions and seeks for explanations.
    ‘Imagination is more important than knowledge,’ said a wise man once. And, it’s true. Well, you need not be aware of the complications of four-dimensional space fabric to accept this theory. What all you need to...
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posted by emilykuru
BELLA SWAN _ part 1

Ummm…. What can i say about her………….er…….nothing interesting but i can show u guys why she spoils the story


1.she is a hopeless char.she degrades herself,

2.she is stupid 2 leave her mom and come to forks when she begs her 2 comeback.

ok! if u guys say that it was because of the love for renee then it is totally wrong.

which daughter who loved her mom so much as to go 2 the place which she considers
hell just for her moms happiness would forget all about renee when jumping off a cliff to hear edwards voice.
doesnt she always worry in the story that she has...
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posted by harrypotterbest
There is, in the world, a girl called Z-----. More commonly known on this website as Best, that is the name that shall be used for this anti story.
Now, when best was 11 years old, she had read all the Harry Potter books, and loved them. I’m talking about waiting for her Hogwarts acceptance letter to come and carving wands. She truly loved the series. In 2009, she went to a wedding. Her aunt there had read the Harry Potter books, except for the last one. She also had a cousin there, who was a huge fan of Twilight. Now, at that time, best hadn’t read Twilight. Her aunt was also a huge fan...
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posted by harrypotterbest
As Edward and Harry settled the final means of the battle, Ron, Hermione, and Ginny had a talk.
“Who wrote this rubbish?” asked Ron. “Sparkle in the sun, battle with debate, they don’t even drink proper blood!”
Hermione, as usual, was the one to answer. “Ron, everyone knows Stephanie Meyer wrote this ‘rubbish.’ She’s not a very good writer, according to The Daily Prophet, and for once I agree with them,” Hermione rolled her eyes. “At least OUR writer, the brilliant J K Rowling, didn’t make US sparkle in the sun. What nonsense!”
“Do you know where this Meyer person...
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I'm tired of repeating myself and other HP fans repeating themselves constantly so here is my opinion on why Harry Potter is better. So you don't think I'm being biased, let me tell you: I read Harry Potter when I was 5 and have been a fan since (and that shuts down the comment that little kids can't read it by the way) and when I was 13, I read Twilight (before the bandwagon) and loved it. Then just recently, I got off the Twilight High. So I know how it is to have liked Twilight and to like Harry Potter.

First, we can look at the authors. JK Rowling is the epitome of Rag to Riches. She started...
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posted by NataliaLidia
i persenally dont like ether series and heres why!!!

books
twilight
1) i am a reel vampire and i do not sparkl!!! stephanie shud have dun her reasearch before she wrote a book about vampires!!!
2) bella is a bad roll model!!!
4) edwerd is abusiv!!!
5) its unrealistic!!!
6) its badly writen!!!
7) edwerd is describd to much!!! it gets boring!!!
8) its boring overall!!!

harry potter
1) its not relatble!!!
2) its made for kids!!!
3)harry always beets te bad guy!!! he never looses!!!
4) harry gets away wit everything in skool!!!
5) they hav bad frends!!! ron leaves nd dosnt stay wit harry when peeps make fun of him!!!
6) its boring!!!
7) snape keeps his job even tho he bullys students nd is a deth eater!!!
8) dumbledoor doesnt reely care about harry!!! he leaves him at da durslys even tho they are abusiv!!!

movies
both movies hav bad actors nd the filmers didnt follows the boks the way they were suposed to!!!
posted by HaleyDewit
Bella
My name is Bella and there’s something I need to tell
I’m dating this cute vampire, he’s just hot as hell
He’s fascinated by my none existing mind
And I fall apart whenever I stare in those liquid topaz eyes

Edward
My name is Edward and there’s something I need to say
Bella’s gonna freak when she finds out I’m gay
But I can clearly understand what she sees in me
Because have you ever met someone this perfectly

Bella
I used to live in Phoenix, but now moved to this rainy place
I keep whining about it and I always have the same expression on my face
I’m just a little girl who’s helpless...
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1. Join an orchestra.
[i] You're inside, anyway.....

2. Join an opera.
He has a good voice...right?

3. Go to a tanning salon.
Who wants to be pale all their life?

4. Leave home.
You're a hundred and something and STILL living with your parents. How does that feel?

5. Travel.
Yeah, the sparkling thing pops that bubble a bit, but what are parasols for?

6. Discover...SUNSCREEN.
It protects you from the sun. Shocking, eh?

7. Begin a knitting business.
Creativity is key. You can still stay inside, and make money. Plus, you make friends with the rest of the sweet little old people in the knitting club.

8.Start...
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I'm adressing the rabid Twilight fans if they would listen. I'm also adressing the common fans of both sides of this debate.

There are some things one may and may not do in a formal debate unless one wants to look like - pardon the language - a freaking donkey.

Nr 01: One may not argue against the debaters points by attacking him or her. This is called argumentum ad hominem and is a fallacy. For example: If I am to argue that free elections is wrong and states that the arguer is an imbecile that does not deserve the right to vote, then I have committed a severe personal attack and will be frowned...
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posted by Athiya
Many of you might have noticed that the golden trio from Harry Potter (Harry, Ron, and Hermione) had always been paired up to fight with the not-so-golden trio of Twilight (Edward, Jacob, and Bella). Now, XDRoseLuvsHP had pointed out a great deal on why HP trio would win against the Twilight's (you can find it link), so I figured perhaps it's time for the villains to battle.

My first thought was off course, James and Voldemort; but then, it didn't seem fair on the Twilight side. James was not a very good villain; his character was poorly underdeveloped and his powers weren't very outstanding...
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This is a (long) rebuttal to KatiiCullen94's argument, the title of which is in is article's title. (Though you've probably all seen that by now.) I haven't included her points in this, so it will be necessary to read her article first.

1. The majority of people in this world cannot relate to Bella. Tell me, how many people can go to a new school and automatically be the prettiest and most popular girl there? How many girls can say that they have FIVE males lusting after them?

Bella does care for people other than herself - her boyfriend. That's it. She was perfectly happy to hurt her father...
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This is my last article and as you may know I never really came here to argue, just to figure out what was going on in Twilight-Haters heads.


Bella- Whiny and Moany ?
Everyone says that Bella is so whiney and the point is so what if she ? I am sure if we went into your heads ,you would be as moany as her. She complains about the attention she is recieving from boys. I would too it would totally creep me out if suddenly I moved to a new school and everybody likes me.
The friend problem: Jessica is not a good friend after being to 9 schools so far I have met people like this and only can I comment...
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posted by DivyaHarry
Firstly, this is not my article. I found it over the internet and pasted it here because I find it really hard to believe that there are people like this in the world who are completely ignorant or just plain stupid.

The e-mail was apparently from Kayla Patterson, a die hard Twilight/Taylor Lautner fan upset about Universal Pictures ripping off the werewolf idea from Twilight.

To whom this may concern:

This movie was a complete waste and I feel that it offends ALL Twilight Fans around the world, that including myself. For one, it was a COMPLETE remaking of the Wolf Pack from the Twilight Saga:...
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Hmm... this could take a while. Haha, I have a lot of reasons for my strong dislike of Twilight. Before I start, I'd just like to explain that I was once a Twilight fan, so I've read all the books and stuff, but I just can't stand it anymore. Therefore, I can give a more complete explanation of my views. Sorry if it's really ridiculously long.

First reason I hate Twilight: the media. Twilight, in all honesty, isn't a great book. I have read worse books (though not many... Twilight was pretty bad). However, if Twilighters and Twilight articles and such weren't all "OMG ITS THE MOST AMAZING SERIES...
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