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Disney Princess Do you think it's was hypocritical of Elsa to criticise Anna for seeking romantic company/ love, when she herself KNEW nothing about either type of love?

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avatar_tla_fan picked A bit:
I swear I'm the only one who thinks this, but I think saying, "you can't marry a man you just met," was just an excuse for keeping Hans away, so he doesn't (or anyone else) discover her powers.
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aquagirl445 picked A bit:
^ Never thought of it like that. I always saw the situation as she was just doing what was best for Anna. :(
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3xZ picked Yes. :
Mary Sue type.
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Annabethandco picked No. :
Elsa knew about love. Let us be real here - she loved her parents and Anna. She loved these people so much that she shut herself away because she was TERRIFIED of hurting them. She is not being a hypocrite she is being sensible. Anna has known this guy for a couple of HOURS and she agreed to marry him. Elsa is just being a realist and smart.
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haynay24 picked Yes. :
Not the right person to talk about this
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Leftthetrain picked No. :
I agree with Annabethandco.

No, it wasn't hypocritical. How is knowing and having the common sense that somebody shouldn't marry a man they just met the same thing as Anna, "seeking love?" I don't think Elsa would care that Anna was dating Hans if she didn't rush into a marriage with him. If Elsa had also married a guy that day, it would be hypocritical. ALSO I think you are forgetting one key thing, and that is whenever something is insulted in Anna's character it's also insulted in Elsa's. As soon as Elsa says, "What do you know about love?" Anna turns around and says, "As much as you! All you know about is shutting people out!" It isn't hypocritical. What was insulted in Anna was also insulted in Elsa.

@avatar_tla_fan I personally always saw it as a mix of both. I think if Anna would have asked for Elsa's permission for marriage on any other day Elsa would have tried getting to know the guy a bit more first, but since it was the coronation day Elsa had the knowledge and common sense that people would try taking her throne and using her disadvantages against her. Either way, Elsa was still skeptical about Anna's decisions.
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Tygers_Eye picked No. :
Elsa doesn't criticize Anna for seeking love, she criticizes her for rushing to get married (as in enter a binding legal contract) with a man she just met, then try to use "love" to justify the decision.

Watch the scene again. link She's shocked when Anna comes to her asking permission to marry someone she just met that day, but then becomes alarmed when Anna says "We haven't worked out the details, we only have a few days to plan the ceremony. Oh! We should invite your brothers! We should bring them here!"

When Anna defends her decision by saying, "It's true love," Elsa points out, "What do you know about love?" Anna has never been in romantic love or made commitments with a stranger, so Elsa's question is perfectly valid. What do you know about love justifying marrying a stranger if you've never been in love before?

And as Leftthetrain says, Elsa doesn't claim to be in romantic love or marry someone she just met on account of "true love" either, so saying no to Anna isn't hypocritical. If you think her asking "What do you know about love?" is, Anna immediately calls her out on it.
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scarletunicorn picked Yes. :
Honestly what's the worst thing is when people start bashing the classic princesses with this line as a scapegoat
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_CatWoman_ picked No. :
She didn't criticize Anna, she stated a moral of life: Don't go marring people you've just met THAT DAY.
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Lanalamprouge picked No. :
you don't need to "know" love to understand that rash choices are bad for you 99% of the time
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manu962 picked No. :
How is it hypocritical? Anna want to marry a man she knew for only a few hours, she was already planing the wedding without thinking how it would effect Elsa. And people say that Elsa is selfish. Heck Anna even wanted to invite Hans's brothers to live there. What gives her the right to do so?And she doesn't even ask Elsa if that is ok and she doesn't even listen to the reasons that Elsa says. She asks Elsa for her blessing but when she doesn't give it she gets angry at her and doesn't even listen to what she has to say.
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AudreyFreak picked Yes. :
OK, by that logic, Anna also knew about love just because she loved her family too. you guys are totally missing the point. Elsa HAS NO EXPERIENCE IN LOVE HERSELF. she is criticizing Anna for doing that. THAT is hypocrisy.

"What gives her the right to do so?And she doesn't even ask Elsa if that is ok and she doesn't even listen to the reasons that Elsa says."

Because she lives there. Because Elsa can say no anytime (and does) though Anna is very happy and caught up in the moment to stop and ask. Because Elsa gives NO reasons at all, just expects the sister she's never spoken to for years to blindly accept her decision (which technically she does have to do as the queen, though). which is exactly why the accident happens- Anna is confused, angry, tries to stop Elsa from leaving to get a real answer for once in her life, Elsa gets angry and BOOM.
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UnholyNoise picked No. :
^ her objection has nothing to do with anna "wanting romantic love" though. i think it's pretty reasonable for elsa to question whether her sister actually understands true love given anna's readiness to shack up for life with a guy she barely knows.

and "you can't marry a man you just met" is explanation enough. the risk is so obvious, she shouldn't have to spell it out.
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Sparklefairy375 picked No. :
That's not hypocritical. Anna wants to marry a guy she's just met in that day and doesn't even know about him beside that he's a prince charming. And she even offered him and his brothers-which were strangers, to live in her kingdom, she just became so naive and she has no right for do that.

I don't get how all of you who picked 'yes' judging Elsa's a hypocritical? In what way she's the one?
There's a misconception here. Being a single and has no romance relationship DOESN'T mean that you know nothing about love. Love isn't just about relationship between a guy and girl. There are siblings love, family love, self-love, etc. The main reason why she's isolated herself is her LOVE towards Anna. If she didn't love her she wouldn't even bothering to stay near her with her uncontrolled power that might be hurt her. But she cares towards her sister and she stay away for keeps her safe.

Also, Elsa didn't criticize Anna for seeking love. She wouldn't be that harsh if they're just dating and getting to know each other and not planning a marriage so fast. This poll is kind of misguided.
It's very reasonable to her for refusing her sister's marriage plan. She has common sense and being logical; in fact it's very impossible to finding true love without getting know about your partner first. Anna's just naively and blindly said it was true love; heck, she has never been in love for her whole life.

@AudreyFreak: You didn't even need love to logically think and understand about good and bad choices for you to decide. Sometimes, love made you blind and cannot think by logically. That's what happens with Anna. Elsa's reason is mostly centers around how he's a stranger and she hardly know about him and planning a marriage in that day she met him. Sorry but I think you're the one who missed the point why she reject.

Why it's hard to understand her for this, when her reason is VERY obvious?
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AudreyFreak picked Yes. :
^because there IS no common sense or logic behind it. Ice magic is believable, magically cured mental illness that a vague idea of self love is tolerable, talking snowmen and singing rocks but not a love at first sight? There's just... no logical consistency. At all. What does she care either? Make Anna go live with Hans if she's actually concerned about the state of her kingdom. Which she shouldn't be, since Anna is only the spare. And she's shown absolutely no concern over Anna's future so far; she can't suddenly start now.

To illustrate this further, look at Tangled: Rapunzel does almost the same thing as Anna. She falls in love with the first man she meets instantly and marries him despite his unrepentant criminal background. She's rewarded for the same impulsive decision making Frozen punishes Anna for. It's hypocritical. The movie (through Elsa, Olaf, Kristoff and Hans) blames and shames some emotionally neglected, sheltered girl for taking romantic matters into her own hands and yikes, I am not comfortable with that. The writers made Anna lonely then punished her for trying to solve that problem. And used Elsa as a mouthpiece for it, trying to make the audience ignore that Elsa is just as wrong as Anna is. Elsa was just as naive in how she handled everything situation. She doesn't know any more than Anna does but Frozen pretends she does.

And yeah, I agree with whoever said it- she was probably just covering her own butt.
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UnholyNoise picked No. :
^ there's no indication that she's "magically cured" at the end of the movie, that she won't have any depressive or anxious phases ever again, just because the movie ends on a high note. depression comes and goes.

"And she's shown absolutely no concern over Anna's future so far; she can't suddenly start now."

anna's well-being is literally the whole reason elsa spent her childhood locked away - elsa showing "absolutely no concern" over her sister has no basis in anything. and because elsa does canonically care about her sister, you can assume it's at least part of why she objects to anna making such a massive commitment to some dude neither of them know. i love the two of them as characters, but what anna does here is tremendously selfish - it's not just an unwise personal gamble, she's forcing this stranger on her sister and her kingdom, after doing zero research on him. and all for a relationship that is (maybe) beneficial only to her.

hypocrisy is condemning others for the doing the same things you do - unless elsa believes it's fine to marry a stranger herself and expects her sister to back her up on it, i don't see how this even applies.
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wavesurf picked Yes. :
Elsa was covering her own a$$. Elsa has no business saying ANYTHING about ROMANTIC LOVE, when she HAS NEVER EXPERIENCED ROMANTIC LOVE, HERSELF. Elsa was scared of Hans, and scared of the Duke of Weselton learning about her powers. She was scared, so she flipped out on her sister, Anna, and unloaded onto Anna.

You can't give advice when you just don't have any experience to back it up. So, my dear Elsa? You can just be quiet for a change. You're blowing a lot of hot air in my face....

Yeah. The movie condemns Anna's hasty actions with regard to love, and presents her as silly for chasing after her sister to bring her back, but I totally condemn Elsa's "letting it all go," freezing her entire country, and then complaining " I can't!" when even people like Hans ask her TO FIX IT. Anna makes hasty decisions. News flash: SO DOES ELSA. I find more bones to pick with Elsa, as she consistently lectures other people about their mistakes ( and refuses to look at her own mistakes head on). Elsa definitely has more hypocrisy to dish out.
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deedragongirl picked No. :
Okay, I remember when Lily James did Cinderella. She did mention in a couple of interviews that Disney has gradually change the typical Damsel in Distress. Which includes the live-action Cinderella, it's not just about a Prince saving the Princess. Which also applies to Disney's Enchanted.
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