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Is Sanji much weaker than Zoro?

Honestly, no not in my opinion. I believe that Zoro is equal to Sanji in strength. Now hear me out. Speed: I honestly do not know why people debate if Zoro is faster, it is so obviously Sanji. Can Zoro kick and run under 5000 meters of water pressure? No. Zoro is fast, dont get me wrong, but in speed Sanji outclasses Zoro. In terms of strength they ARE EQUAL. Why do people say Zoro is physically stronger? Zoro's strength lies in his upper body and Sanji's lies in his lower body. Zoro can pick up a building yet Sanji can kick the air in order to fly. To quote a youtube video by kingoflighting it is th same notion as Hitmonlee and Hitmonchan (if you know about pokemon you get what i mean) In physical strength THEY ARE EQUAL. Please understand that. Sanji is more intelligent. I will admit that Zoro is battle savvy but so is Sanji, and he is intelligent outside of battle too. When you calim that Zoro is smarter it makes me wonder if you read/watch One Piece or if you are spouting random nonsense. Durability obviously Zoro but Sanji does not have much less. Remember Sanji took the most damage in the Thriller Bark arc before Zoro took Luffy's pain, that is why Zoro could knock him out in one blow. The only thing that Zoro truly has over Sanji is range. And the reason why is obvious. So go ahead and ask me any questions if you are a Zoro fanboy and i will answer them.

sanji is not weaker than zoro coz for me both of them are realy tough

irokapwhan posted over a year ago

reefa2931 posted over a year ago

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w99w99w said:

i agree with you that they are like hitmonlee and hitmonchan, thats a really good analogy. but i think that they are also equal in speed. in running speed sanji could run faster but zoro can also move his swords very fast, aka the wind blade things idk what they r called and in general smarts they r also equal or course Zoro has no sense of direction and Sanji spends all day catering to girls that pretty much hate him, nami more than robin, and he will never have any chnce with, but, Zoro is, in my opinion, more of a deep thinker. so in the end i think that they r Zoro, 51% and Sanji 49% honestly, when they fight how does Zoro not cut Sanji, he has to be holding back somewhat

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blackpanther666 said:

I agree with you to a certain degree. I also like the analogy that you mentioned about Hitmonlee and Hitmonchan, too... It really works perfectly, as their situation is very, very similar.

However, I have to disagree about durability - Zoro is almost as durable as Luffy in some ways, who is a rubberman. Sanji might be too, but nowhere near what you seem to think. I think that Zoro is faster than Sanji when it comes to moving in water, because he trains with his lower body as you said and Zoro trains his upper body. That's why, when it comes down to it, Zoro is a bit faster and probably is faster than Luffy without Gear Segundo. If you think about it, Zoro is actually a lot faster than you realise. Also, I do believe that they are equal in some ways, but not so much in others - Either way, I think that Zoro would beat Sanji in a fight and only because he is more brutal. And, he is almost as intelligent as Sanji - despite your claim of being battle-savvy, but not as intelligent as Sanji, I find that to be a load of rubbish... Zoro may not be a genius, but he's a lot smarter than Luffy, that's for sure. And, Zoro can fight women.

posted over a year ago

Yes Zoro is smarter than Luffy, but Luffy is not being called into question here. Zoro is really not that intelligent compared to Sanji. 1) Sanji is able to incorporate his knowledge of animal anatomy into battle, e.g. his fight with Kuroobi. Zoro being battle savvy isnt a bad thing. Being battle savvy is being knowledgeable on the battlefield. So you saying that is rubbish is pretty much saying that Zoro is clueless on the battlefield. I know exactly how fast Zoro is. But training in upper body strength doesnt make you faster in running speed. So in running speed Sanji outclasses him. In attacking speed i can say that Zoro is better if they are not equal but Sanji is not thta far behind. And in durability you seem to underestimate Sanji's durability. We all know that Zoro has godly durability but Sanji has a tonne as well. For example, in the fight back in the Don Krieg arc against Pearl, Sanji couldnt fight back against him or Gin would have killed Zeff. So he stood there and took all Pearls hits. He almost got his skull crushed for gods sake. Then asfter that, whilst he was still injured, he fought Gin and Gin broke some of his ribs. More examples, he was able to take Kuroobis attacks, half of Jabra's ten finger gun and take Absaloms attacks WHILST holding Nami above his head. Then he managed to hold on to his leg whilst Absalom was still raining down the hits. Dont get me wrong i think Zoro beats Sanji in durability but not by much. And also im not asking who can win in a fight, im asking who is STRONGER. There are so many factors that can lead to one persons victory over another or vice versa. A lot of these factors dont have much to do with the fighters abilities. So Sanji could win, Zoro could win, but i am asking who is stronger and i believe they are equal or Sanji is at least not way weaker- Zoro =50/51% whilst Sanji=50/49%.

reefa2931 posted over a year ago

You're missing my point. A. Luffy is an example. B. Zoro, despite your claim of being not as smart as Sanji is rubbish, not the claim about him being battle-savvy. If you think about it, closely and hard, Zoro is much smarter than everyone gives him credit for and Sanji really isn't anything to rave about - he may be a gentleman, but that doesn't make him smart. The fact is, he isn't like Luffy and Zoro, who always think that the crew will alright no matter what. Sanji worries more than they do, that's all. That doesn't mean he's smart - it just means he is a bit more mature than them. Anyway, the fact is, he may still be durable, but the things that Zoro has been through would have killed Sanji. Anyway, just to clarify, but you asked who is stronger and everything I said is a part of 'strength' - durability is a part of strength, just like Zoro's resolve is a strength of his. So, if you are going to ask a question like this, you need to be much more clear than that. As it stands, Zoro, who is more durable, stronger in upper body strength and not weak in leg strength, as well as much faster in almost every single way and who would win in a fight is just that, stronger. It doesn't matter how you try to word your argument, the fact remains that Zoro IS stronger, in almost every single way, than Sanji.

blackpanther666 posted over a year ago

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1) Zoro has taken a lot that is admirable, however, what i am saying is that Sanji in terms of durability is not FAR BEHIND. Please try to read before you post. 2) You did say that Zoro would win in a fight and if you look at the title of the question it says: Is Sanji much weaker than Zoro? So it is about strength. What you did was judge their strength and then said that Zoro woul win but like i said the amount of deciding factors there are, that are different to strength, could easily sway the outcome. 3) Before you said Zoro is ALMOST as intelligent as Sanji, then you said Sanji is not as intelligent as people say. Let me tell you, Sanji has performed many things that demonstrate his intelligence in battle but ALSO OUTSIDE OF BATTLE. Tell me, can you say that outside of battle Zoro is more intelligent then Sanji? If that is what you are saying then i can assume that a) you dont really pay attention when you read/watch one piece. b) you lack a brain cell or two. c) you are a complete Zoro fanboy and Sanji hater. Zoro is very adept in battle when it comes to battle savvyness but the very fact that he cannot follow the simplest of directions and always gets lost should tell you that Sanji is smarter. You say that Zoro is strong upper body wise and his leg strength isnt bad, if that is the case i can even say Sanjis upper body strength is nothing to laugh at. The amount of flips and handstands he does must show he has above average upper body strength. Now before you take it the wrong way and rage notice how i said his upper body strength is above average, nowhere as strong as Zoro. but then Zoro's lower body strength is nowhere near Sanjis. I am telling you in strength they are EQUAL. There is no way you can say that Zoro is faster then Sanji in everyway because if that is what you are implying, REFER BACK TO MY A, B, C section. And also i am saying that contrary to popular belief Sanji and Zoro are 50/50 if not 49/51. I have not said Snaji is stronger than Zoro i am mainly stating that tehy are equal or Zoro is stronger but not BY MUCH. Please attempt to understand other points of view before you start getting emotional.

reefa2931 posted over a year ago

I'm not a fanboy... If I was then I doubt I would have gone to the extent to earn a Die-Hard medal for this club. So, I'm getting emotional am I? Coming from the guy who just told me I was lacking in brain cells... That's pretty rich. Next thing, I do understand your point of view - I just happen to think you are wrong is all. Anyway. I am not a Zoro fanboy... I like Sanji almost as much as I like Zoro - I'm simply saying that Zoro is stronger than Sanji... You keep saying in terms of strength... But strength takes many forms. Enough on that. You also keep saying that Sanji is much smarter than Zoro... However. you still haven't given me any examples. Therefore I am going to discount this part, as you don't seem to be able to prove it. Oh and dude, Zoro getting lost is a quip of the show - how is that any different from Sanji falling in love with every girl he sees? They are both gags... You told me that I was lacking in brain cells, but you haven't demonstrated any argument strong enough to prove your point... Anyway, last thing I just love it how you try and make me out as some kind of rager - you are not perceptive enough to make such a call... Especially coming from a guy who is obviously being a hypocrite... You said I was getting emotional, but that was you misreading the situation and you are the one getting emotional, purely because I'm not just bowing down to your ruling between Sanji and Zoro. I have my opinion and I have stated it - I am not going to change that opinion for a random person on Fanpop, that feels like arguing to the point of stubbornness. Good day to you, sir.

blackpanther666 posted over a year ago

I never said you were a fanboy or that you lack a brain cell. If you read my comment thoroughly you would notive that i said: ' Tell me, can you say that outside of battle Zoro is more intelligent then Sanji? If that is what you are saying then i can assume that a) you dont really pay attention when you read/watch one piece. b) you lack a brain cell or two. c) you are a complete Zoro fanboy and Sanji hater'. Don't get the wrong idea please. Also you seem to think that i have given no evidence as to why Sanji is smarter but you sure as hell havent given any to dispute it, so that is a rich thing for you to say. Now some of these points i will repeat but since you have trouble reading i will have to do it. Sanji is smarter than Zoro. Why? Let me give you some examples. In the fight with Kuroobi, Sanji, MID-BATTLE, realised the way a fishman works. That they use gills to breathe underwater and lungs to breathe on land. So he covered one of his gills and blew carbon dioxide into the other and Kuroobi could not breathe, thus Sanji was able to escape to the surface. Because he knows the anatomy of several living things, him being a cook and all, he was able to apply that knowledge into a battle situation and end up victoriuos because of that. Next, he managed to figure out the secret to Bon Clays powers and used them against him in order to gain the upper hand momentarily in battle. Next, in the fight against Jabra, when Jabra used the Moonlight Ten Finger Gun, Sanji blocked one of the attcks with one leg, but reserved the other leg to use the Flamberge Shot. He realised that that was the only oppurtunity he had to end the fight. A pure example of Sanji being witty and intelligent on the battlefield. Next in the fight with Absalom, Sanji demonstrated his intelligence, AGAIN. He utilised knowledge that he gained as a child on Absaloms devil fruit and knew that he was able to turn things invicible and thus he knew he had bazookas on his arms and how he got away with Nami. Then using Usopps salt balls he was able to keep track of Absaloms whereabouts when he was invicible. There are also many instances outside of battle too. For example, closing the Gates of Justice to allow his team to escape, taking out one of the 11 jurymen so that the Franky family could get an idea of who they were up against, halting the Arc Maxim by displacing one of the gears and giving Usopp and Nami a chance to escape. That enough evidence for you? Explain how i am being a hypocrite again? Oh wait because you have no evidence to defend your point and i do? Judging by the assumptions you have made from your post, you are obviously a) or c): A fanboy, or you just dont read properly. And a very good day to you sir.

reefa2931 posted over a year ago

but it would appear as if you will not understand that I am not forcing your opinion back down your throat. once again had you read properly you would notice that I said that they are equal or zoro is a bit stronger. so I am partly agreeing with you, but you refuse to see that and I stick by my points, so looks like we will have to agree to disagree...

reefa2931 posted over a year ago

Dude. You ramble on far too much. The fact remains, I do read properly, I can't find the motivation to read through all your points, which seem unsubstantiated. Keep it simple, otherwise I simply cannot spend my reply to you anymore. Either way, it doesn't matter... Like you said, agree to disagree, because I disagree with you about some of things you said. Simple as that.

blackpanther666 posted over a year ago

roranoazoro said:

I agree they are equal in strength but I don't think that Sanji is smarter cause when they met Mr.2 zoro came up with the idea of a double mark.And I am not saying that Sanji is not smart but in some cases they are both dumb:/

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enderwoman said:

sanji is not weaker than zoro, its just that people think zoro is because he beat sanji is the polls.

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