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Am I the only one who finds Snow to be a rather hypocritical and one dimensional character?

Okay, this is just my opinion and you are 100% allowed to have your own opinions. Don't get me wrong, I love Mary Margaret, but I find Snow to be rather hypocritical and one dimensional. She claims that she is on the "good side" but how many of George and Regina's men did she and Charming kill in order to find each other? Men who probably had families, wives and children, just because they were fighting for what they believed to be right. Or when Regina was meant to be executed, Snow let her go because Regina had once saved her, and so she was thinking of keeping her conscience clear. While I understand this to be a very noble act, it goes against who she is meant to be. A queen is meant to think of not only herself, but the safety and welfare of her people. How many people died because Snow let her go? How many people lost their happy endings? When Snow drank that potion that took away her love, she became exactly like Regina. My way of thinking, is that the potion replicates exactly what Regina's life has been like. The only way Snow got through it was because she had Charming and her friends to get through it, something Regina doesn't have. Another thing about Snow that annoys the hell out of me is that she preaches the hell out of being "good" and yet she turns around and kills Cora, knowing what it feels like to lose a mother. Don't get me wrong, Cora would have been horrible as the Dark One, and their lives are a lot better off because she's dead, what angers me is the way she went about doing it, by tricking Regina, promising her everything that she'd ever longed for: a family, her happy ending, with Henry and a mother who can truly love, only to have it cruelly ripped away, and all MM can do is mope around and be treated like she is higher and holier than anybody else. One more thing that annoys me about "good" in general, is the fact that they're all fine to make deals with Rumple so long as it benefits them, but when it doesn't go their way they lock him up
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The response cut out the last bit of my question, but what I was saying that I will never, nor wish to ever justify Rumple and Regina's actions. They are greatly complex and awesome characters, but the things they have done can never be exused, what annoys me is that people can still justify the things Snow has done because she is one the "good" side. I love Rumple and Regina, but in no what pretend to understand the extent of their actions or glorify them as
oceaninyoureyes posted over a year ago
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I totally agree with this; but how many of George and Regina's men did she and Charming kill in order to find each other? Like thank you! I'm glad I'm not the only one who realized this! They aren't even bad guys or evil, they were just doing their jobs (guarding the castle) trying to make a living and put food on the tables. And good point with the potion too.
zanhar1 posted over a year ago
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All of this though. I agree with all of it. I've bought it up numerous times only to have it kind of shot down.
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bri-marie said:
As a general rule, I don't find Snow to be a one-deminsional character. I think the Snow from season one was a pretty kick-ass, complex, well-developed woman character. She fought for her kingdom, her love, as well as herself, and she was always willing to see the good in people -- hence why she let Regina go. Because she knew there was (and still is) good in her, and she hoped by releasing her, Regina would find a way to redeem herself.
Mary Maragret, while certainly more tame and timid than Snow, was also a pretty layered character.

But I think the writers have dropped the ball with Snow this season. I feel like they didn't quite get MM's character, and so in "combining" the two, they've ended up making MM extremely weak, and that's carried over into Snow. The problem is, not only does this make Snow a much weaker character, but is also makes her more weakly written.

I don't find Snow killing George's men to be hypocritical. You have to remember, while those men may have been following orders, those orders were to kill Snow and Charming. They didn't kill those men just to kill them, they killed them to save their lives. Being on the good side doesn't mean letting people walk all over you, and it certainly doesn't mean letting people kill you and your loved ones.

The same thing with Cora. Cora wanted to kill Snow and her entire family, and then Rumple to become the Dark One, which would have been bad for more than just Regina. Killing Cora in-and-of-itself isn't hypocritical. (Using Regina to do it, however, is a whole different matter.)

Considering the harm Rumple brought, I don't think locking him up his hypocritical. Which, by the way, they didn't do because the deals "didn't go the way they wanted", they did it because he continued to trick and harm people into getting what he wanted.
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posted over a year ago 
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Thanks for sharing your opinion, it's wonderful to hear feedback from fellow fans in a constructive peaceful way :) I agree, I quite liked snow in season 1, she was pretty badass , and I thought adding that characteristic to her normally innocent character added another layer to her character. I think the fact that how weakly she has been written this season just grates on my nerves a bit. Some of the things you have written about in your opinion I have never really considered before (my opinion is rather biased, I tend the like the villains in everything ) but I can respect your opinion and it has given me many things to mull over, and though I don't think I'll ever be a if fan of hers I can appreciate her character for what it is and what it represents in the show. I worded the question wrong when I said I found it hypocritical for Charming and Snow to kill those men, I meant that what I found hypocritical was that they never seem to regard those deaths as important, the way the do others deaths, even if it was orders they were still someone's family and meant just as much to someone as Ruth did to Charming, or Eva meant to Snow. Does that even make sense? Haha. The thing that has angered me the most this season was how she went about killing Cora as you agreed, it was wrong to do it in such a manipulative way, but I'm glad cora's gone and that everyone's safe, so she was right in that respect for killing her, she saved a lot of people, but it was how she went about it that I found hypocritical. Season 1 was much better, for all the characters, they are so much weaker this season I've found. Thanks for the comment, it was highly insightful and I hope you weren't offended by it or anything :) thanks again
oceaninyoureyes posted over a year ago
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We really don't know how Snow and Charming regarded those deaths -- not only were we not shown, but the characters themselves weren't given time to really think. They were attacked, Snow was captured and poisoned, they met up at David's mom's house where she was mortally wounded and they spent who-knows how long trying to save her. One of the things I dslike about this show is that some pretty awesome character development points slip through the cracks, because there is so much other stuff going on, and so many other characters to focus on. So when it comes to Snow and Co reacting to certain things, I can't entirely blame that on the characters themselves, because sometimes the writers themselves don't even think about those things. I definitely agree that the characters aren't on par from last season. I think Belle is the only one who's been there consitantly who's remained a solid character.
bri-marie posted over a year ago
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Exactly!
zanhar1 posted over a year ago
zanhar1 said:
One dimensional no, I think she's pretty complex. Hypocritical, heck yes.

She yells at Gina for being a killer and goes out and does it herself (rather makes Gina do it for her). She's always telling Gina to redeem herself but when she tries Snow is all like 'lol nope' and then when Snow realizes this put her in danger she's like 'okay you can redeem now'. There's also the fact that she yells at Gina for saying Henry isn't Emma's but goes and does the same to Gina out of what seems like revenge. Which brings me to how every sees it as okay for Snow to seek revenge but when Gina Gold or Cora do so it is not okay at all.

Speaking of Hook the Charmings always manhandle the dude. They constantly beat him and yell at him and then Snow turns around and gets mad when the villains do that to someone else. I'm pretty sure they've done this to Gold to.

That being said I feel like the good guys only get away with things because they are good guys. Slap the villain title on them and they wouldn't get away with half of it. Which leads me to wonder exactly how much can a good guy get away with before we call him or her evil? Can Snow be considered evil because she manipulated Gina into killing her mom? Killing is evil and Snow had killed someone.
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Haha yes thankyou, it's great having someone who shares my opinion. I was pretty hesitant to post this as I'm new here and I've seen how ugly it can turn, I just really wanted to voice my opinion :) it just annoys me how some people can continue to justify "goods" actions, while blaming "eviil" for everything, cause you know know that Rumple is Henry's grandfather, all his sins are forgiven, not Regina who raised the kid for 10 years, she barely gets 5 minutes alone with him anymore :( I've never considered regina to be "evil" she has many redeeming qualities such as her ability to love that make her, and rumple not "evil". Cora was evil, she had no heart and therefore could not feel any positive emotions. I think people tend to see the show in black and white with no gray area. No character is inherently good or bad, they all have their redeeming qualities and their flaws,. Thanks for the feedback :) it telly enjoy reading how others feel about this particular topic :)
oceaninyoureyes posted over a year ago
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No problem. Totally agree, until now I felt almost like I was the only one who thought so, at least on this site. I don't blame you, I'm usually the one dead center of the messy heated debates, I'd be hesitant too. By the way, welcome to fanpop. ^_^ That annoys the crap out of me too! They justify good guys' evil deeds and almost yell at me for doing the same with evil characters. That too makes me mad, Rumple does so much worse than Gina (he's been around longer and had more time for evil too) and he's the one who influenced her to take the evil path yet he's forgivable and more trusting? I haven't either, I see her as more of someone who has been hurt over and over and is desperate for something to take the pain away, she just goes about it in the wrong way. And for this ideal I was told that I wasn't a real Gina fan... I agree with you there too, I personally try to see the grays. No problem. ^_^
zanhar1 posted over a year ago
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Right!
zanhar1 posted over a year ago
magichand said:
I would give my answer, but i see @oceaninyoureyes had said it all. Well done!
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beekee404 said:
i understand your beliefs but i always thought of david being the one who's the hypocritical one. i know i've ranted enough times about this but think about it, even though snow was responsible for cora killing daniel and for tricking regina into killing her own mother, he still acted like snow was the injured party. when she tricked regina into killing cora, he acted like she was the one who's mother got killed (granted her mother WAS killed but thats beside the point lol) plus when snow and emma were in fairytale land, he seemed to just "pretend" to be sociable with regina but ever since snow and emma came back, he's gone back to being an ass to her. regina would've had a better chance at redeeming herself if he didnt assume that she killed archie when she didnt and look all pissed off when she arrived at the welcome home party. people always say that regina has been given many chances to redeem herself but think about it, redeeming isnt easy and not a lot of people really helped her except henry and briefly emma. cora was the only one who gave her a shoulder to cry one despite her evil doings so its really no wonder regina was pressured back into darkness again. not a lot of the good guys gave her enough faith. ok i'm done now lol sorry for my long ranting answer lol
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KataraLover said:
No, Regina's the hypocritical and one dimensional character, plus stupid to boost. Regina is such a big baby and the fact that she and Cora tried to kill Emma, Snow, and David means she deserves her suffering. Snow White only did what she did because her family was in danger. Though I agree it was ridiculous to have her spare Regina's life during the execution, she should have let her die. I'm just tired of everyone treating Snow as this pure character who can't do no wrong, even when it involved saving her family.
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