Duncan and Courtney
Duncan and Courtney Do you believe that Gwen is the black rose like Heather is/was?
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In season 3, Duncan kissed Gwen because he LIKED her. Gwen kissed him back because she had been in love with the guy. She wasn't trying to put Duncan and Courtney against each other. The kiss was a moment of passion that they both had been longing for. It may have been wrong, but it was not intentional for the purpose of ruining the teams and giving each of them an advantage in the game.
>:( Yeah, sure, you thought Trent cheated on you, Gwen, Would't you know what it's like? Why would you do that to someone? Thats just mean. No exuse, no way around it....New Heather. Heather's getting nicer if anyone hasn't noticed that :/ But now Gwen i just a bad person who wouldn't even aploigize for breaking someone's heart. Sorry, but shs worse than Heather is now :(
Gwen, however, is supposed to be one of the GOOD GUYS. She is supposed to be the opposite of Heather and be above anything Heather would do. After the Heather-Trent incident, she, among everyone else, should know what its like to have her heart broken because she thought that Trent betrayed her/never cared about her. But in season 3, what does she do? She knowingly gets into a relationship with a taken guy, betraying Courtney and her trust in the process,tried to hide it from Courtney, and in the end after everything is revealed, feeling no remorse about it and only thinking of herself and Duncan.
But that is just one trait they share, among a few others with her, Duncan, Courtney, etc.
So one similarity they share is the fact that they kissed someone else's boyfriend/love interest/lover, and, in the end, feeling no remorse.
And are we seriously going to say Gwen is hypocritical? Courtney is way more hypocritical. She accuses Gwen of cheating and says that she and Duncan are bad people. Yet, Courtney, determined to get back at them, starts to flirt with Tyler (A TAKEN MAN). I love how that gets excused....because "she was cheated on", "she was vulnerable", and my favorite "she wasn't really flirting with him". You cannot fake flirt with someone....she basically came out and flirted with him trying to get a rise out Duncan...which didn't work and made her look like a hypocrite.
Point being: Gwen is not new Heather. Gwen is nothing like Heather. Courtney has more traits of Heather's than Gwen does.
Gwen should be apologizing too since she is just as responsible for the kiss as Duncan was. Yes, he is the one in the relationship, but that's all the more reason for Gwen to back off, which she didn't. She didn't mention Courtney at all during the confessional when they kissed or try to stop him from making a move on her. They just acted like they usually did, then he grabs her hand, she gives him this weird look and then they kiss. Also, she should be apologizing since she just proved almost every single one of Trent and Courtney's accusations against her, especially since Courtney was actually starting to be nice to her this season, excluding the first episode and considered Gwen as somewhat of a friend. The only other times Courtney was "mean" to Gwen is because Courtney had not forgotten that Gwen liked Duncan.
Gwen and Courtney were both hypocrites this season. Gwen was angry at Heather for kissing Trent and devastated/heartbroken at his elimination and the kiss. Yet in World Tour, she makes out with Courtney's boyfriend and has the nerve to have that "Whats-her-problem" attitude towards her. Like you said, Courtney flirting with Tyler was hypocritcal of her, even if she wasn't really planning on doing anything to him except flirt to make Duncan mad. And yes, most of us excuse it do to some of those reasons, but aren't you doing the same thing with Gwen with excusing her cheating by calling it a "moment of built up passion exploding?"
Gwen is similar to Heather, along with being similar to Courtney, Duncan, Justin and, to a tiny margin, Alejandro personality wise and actions.
Gwen has exhibited:
Cheating with someone else's partner/or on your own partner- Heather, Duncan, Courtney (Although flirting was the most she did), Alejandro, Bridgette, and, technically Justin.
Lack of remorse- TDI!Heather, Duncan, TDA!Courtney, Alejandro, and Justin, LeShawna.
Lying- Heather, Duncan, Courtney, Justin, Alejandro, LeShawna.
Manipulation- Heather, Courtney, Duncan, Alejandro, Justin, LeShawna.
Cowardice(?)- Justin and, maybe, Duncan.
Trying to get out of any getting any karma- Justin, Duncan, Heather, Courtney and Alejandro.
Selfishness- Courtney, Duncan, Alejandro, Heather
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Betrayal of any kind- Heather, Courtney, Duncan, Owen, Bridgette, Alejandro, Trent, Harold and LeShawna.
My point is: Comparing her niceness to others is one thing. She is, or shall I say, was nicer than Heather and Courtney. Then there is saying that Gwen is just so much purer and above everyone else that is a whole other thing. This season, Gwen proved that she is just as bad as some of the others.
And UHG! People should stop posting questions like this! Ones bagging on Gwen. PAH! This is an immature question!
Believe me, I could pick out some of Courtney's flaws and write 'em down too.
And thirdly, Courtney cannot be left out of this question because it involves her too.
2.)I disagree that Trent was the sole reason for the break up. Trent was a lot of things, but 'possessive' isn't one of them. He never tried to STOP her from seeing Duncan, he only took Owen's "advice" and started losing challenges because he thought that that would keep Gwen interested in him and not have her fall for Duncan. Also, 'psychotic' is way too strong a word. I'd say the better word was "obsessed."Both Gwen and Trent were responsible for the break in their own ways.
Trent: His obsession with 9, keeping Gwen interested, his jealousy of Duncan, and purposefully losing challenges contributed to the break up.
Gwen: I could definitely understand why Trent was so concerned about her and Duncan. She hung out with him constantly, she made that "sexy" comment about Duncan (even if she was just 'joking'), she and Duncan have a few stuff in common, they went off alone in the woods together on two occasions (that we know about, mind you), and then there was that footage from the secret clip. Aside from the Duncan thing, there was the fact that she seems to lack the communication side that a relationship requires. The biggest example is while when Trent was starting to go crazy in the sand castle episode, she immeadiatley latches on to whatever theory DUNCAN says and Harold, and not even bothering to ask Trent about it. Nor has she called him out on his crazy behavior. She just assumed every aspect of his life revolves around her. So, I think it was right of her to break up with him for cheating in the game, but not for an obsession she never talked to him about. No did I like how she handled it.
3.) Bakes is right again in that Courtney is just as involved the others.
But yeah lasalle28 , I agree that Gwen is SUPPOSED to be one of the GOOD people.
I think this show has no hope anymore D: I hate the new producers, not because of DxG (Which I STILL can't stand in my personal, non-bashing intended opinion) But because of the way they presented the entire show >:(
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