It depends how harsh the joke is.
if someone told that joke about the three wise men, then id be fine.
but if someone called God a wanker, that would really annoy me

what about jokes like the family guy and south park cartoons make

or jokes like the joke cowgirlfromhell made in this link

Light hearted jokes like in family guy dont bother me

I can type a really long response but Hans Teeuwen has said it all for me.
link

i mean
its a joke!

The whole nature of a joke is that it's funny...and A JOKE. As in not serious. Besides which, if we couldn't make fun of religion, what would we do with our lives? ;) x

Sometimes I take offense, if I don't know it's a joke, but if it's funny (and clean), I would say there ok.

No way! I love them they are almost always hilarious!

It's like making fun of someone's skin colour or weight or height I don't find it funny

But the fact that some people dont find it funny does not make it automatically wrong. That just means they have a different sense of humor.
There is a lot of humor that I don't find funny, but I don't find it wrong, it's just not my taste of humor.
But the great thing is: you can just ignore it and listen to the humor you DO like.

Religion is just something you believe in. Religions are peaceful and will know that jokes about them are only meant to be funny, not hurting.

I know, I'm horrible for writing that but I heard it that day ansd laughed =/ No one should take jokes seriously or to heart. I completely respect other people's religious beliefs but I love a good laugh ^_^

it is not like making fun of the colour of someone's skin. no matter how strong your faith might be, it's still a choice you made. no one chooses the colour of their skin, or their height or weight.

except michael jackson

I think they can be hilarious. Take a Mel Brooks movie for example. Indians speaking Yiddish? Cracks me up every time.

As long as you're laughing with, not at, the religion, I think it's OK. There is a line between making a funny joke and trying to make a funny joke and looking like a jerk.

It's hilarious, but it's definitely insulting. Cause for some reason jokes can sound like "real" to other people.

It's making fun of something that is personal just because you find it funny doesn't mean someone from that religion will take it the way you meant it.

SO just because people might get offended they are wrong. What about if someone makes fun of a political party is it wrong because people in this political party might get offended?

I get offended when people say I am going to hell because I am a non-christian.
I get offended when a iman refuses to shake a womans hand.
I get offended when people say I have no morals because I am an atheist.
I get offended when people say that I have a illness because it is Gods punishment or Gods plan.

People will always be offended by things

But whatever. I live in a society that has free speech, freedom of religion. I deal with it. If there is something that really offends me (and is not hurting anyone) I turn the other way.

As long as you don't do it straight directly in their face; it makes it a bit more acceptale.

'freedom of religion.'

If someone has chosen that religion. No one has a right to take a away some of their pride by demeaning them with a negative joke.

What do you think of those who tell jokes of their own religion?

Well they obviously aren't that religious if they are ready to make a joke about their religion at the expense of some laughs.

YES THEY HAVE THE RIGHT to "take away some of their pride"

who says they can´t

Atheist's always complain about how no one likes them- maybe it's because of the unfunny jokes they tell about other religions.

If you have chosen that religion then WHY should anyone say something bad about it.

'Well they obviously aren't that religious if they are ready to make a joke about their religion at the expense of some laughs.'

Right now I am offended by your presumtion that people who make jokes about their religion 'aren't that religious'. Who are you to judge that? Maybe these people are just familiar with the term 'self-mockery'?

'Atheist's always complain about how no one likes them- maybe it's because of the unfunny jokes they tell about other religions.'

I don't mind being disliked as an atheist, I dislike it when people say I have no morals because I am atheist and other things like that. Otherwise, I don't care, if they dislike me because I am atheist, and no other reason, I wouldn't want them to like me anyway.
And about the unfunny jokes: that's just, like I said before, a matter of taste. There are a lot of comedians who make religious jokes: do you think they would be populair if nobody like them?

Some jokes I don't like, but I simply don't watch to comedians who make these jokes or I don't listen when someone in a bar makes them. I don't find them wrong: I don't like them, but maybe other people do. Let them enjoy those jokes.

I will quote Hans Teeuwen again for those who have not watched the video:
'Everything with a certain status has a certain power. Power always tends to corrupt and has to be ridiculed. If you can't do that anymore you get creepy situations, a dictatorship or something and that is why it must be done.'

This does not only apply to religion jokes, but also to jokes about the President/King/Queen, people in the parliament, everything that has a certain power.

If you beleive in something truly you wouldn't make a joke about it.
There was this guy who sold jewelry and called it Sh*t. How does that make any sense? How can YOU choose something and call it rubbish you don't care enough about it. Comedians make jokes for money, they are paid to say 'funny' things and at times it is funny but can also be taking the wrong way.


Q: Why could Jesus walk on water?
A: Everybody knows sh*t floats.

teNaxx said:
Look, I have nothing against atheism, but you're making fun of what most of people believe in and you keep saying that we criticize your believings.

adavila said:
SO!!!

I am a christian and I don't go around saying jokes about it (the joke below even though i'm not an atheist i feel offended by) In the christian spot there are No atheist jokes so why in the athesist spot there are jokes about christians. ANd then you complain about everyone making fun of you


young woman teacher with obvious liberal tendencies explains to her class of small children that she is an atheist. She asks her class if they are atheists too. Not really knowing what atheism is but wanting to be like their teacher, their hands explode into the air like fleshy fireworks.

There is, however, one exception. A girl named Lucy has not gone along with the crowd. The teacher asks her why she has decided to be different.

"Because I'm not an atheist."

Then, asks the teacher, "What are you?"

"I'm a Christian."

The teacher is a little perturbed now, her face slightly red. She asks Lucy why she is a Christian.

"Well, I was brought up knowing and loving Jesus. My mom is a Christian, and my dad is a Christian, so I am a Christian."

The teacher is now angry. "That's no reason," she says loudly.

"What if your mom was a moron, and your dad was a moron. What would you be then?"

She paused, and smiled. "Then," says Lucy, "I'd be an atheist."


You can't put down someone else's belief just because you don't think it's the right religion

I'm sorry, who complained about people making fun of atheists?
I have no problem with people having a bit of a laugh about atheists. Go ahead!

I like that joke, but I think you just posted it to be controversial. Nice debate-move.

'If you beleive in something truly you wouldn't make a joke about it.
There was this guy who sold jewelry and called it Sh*t. How does that make any sense? How can YOU choose something and call it rubbish you don't care enough about it.'

I don't believe in God: but there are other things that are very important to me. Yet, I am not above joking about them. These things are very important, important enough that a joke won't change that fact. Nothing will, a joke is not a threat.
Some people can care about things and joke about them: just because you can't, does not mean you have the right to call them 'not that religious'. You are not to judge.

I might get offended by jokes about some things: but this does not make those jokes wrong! It just means the person making the joke has different valeus concerning things. He/she might get offended by other jokes.

'Comedians make jokes for money, they are paid to say 'funny' things and at times it is funny but can also be taking the wrong way.'

It's not the comedians fault when somebody takes their joke the wrong way: he/she can't control how people take his jokes.

'You can't put down someone else's belief just because you don't think it's the right religion.'

I think it has very little to do with right or wrong religion. It's something large of which a lot of people know something so it's easy to make jokes about.
It's the same with jokes about the Dutch Royal family for example: everybody here knows them and know what you are refering to.

And actually you CAN put down somebody's religion. It's called freedom of speech.

And actually you CAN put down somebody's religion. It's called freedom of speech.

Freedom of speech what about Political Correcteness

You just and wouldn't/shouldn't go up to a black person or a fat person and say "OI,Fatty,Stop eating the pork pies, youre're blocking the sunlight!!"

I might get offended by jokes about some things: but this does not make those jokes wrong! It just means the person making the joke has different valeus concerning things. He/she might get offended by other jokes.

If I hear a joke that I am offended by I would tell them "That's WRONG!" Because even if it's funny, it may still offend someone. Freedom of speech is rubbish. Why do they bleep swearwords? Why do they tell people to think about what they are going to say?

Russell Brand and Jonathon Ross did a prank call to Andrew Sachs and were told it was WRONG even though they meant it as a joke it backfired and can seriously hurt someone and damage the confidence that they have in their faith.

Just because i know a black person doesn't mean I can call them a Nigga because everbody knows what I am reffering to and it's freedom of speech

It's not the comedians fault when somebody takes their joke the wrong way: he/she can't control how people take his jokes.

But comedians can control what THEY say.

'Freedom of speech what about Political Correcteness'

To quote amazondebs:
'PC=BS'.

Political correctness has it uses and is certainly very important. But freedom of speech is a lot more important.

'You just and wouldn't/shouldn't go up to a black person or a fat person and say "OI,Fatty,Stop eating the pork pies, youre're blocking the sunlight!!"'

No indeed I would not. Because I see no need for it. It has no use, other then being insulting.
Religious jokes have a use, especially those made by comedians. Comedians, like you pointed out, make money with their jokes. And seeing a lot of comedians who make these kind of jokes are quite populair, a lot of people find them funny.

'Freedom of speech is rubbish. Why do they bleep swearwords?'

Nice to see that you think that one of the basic rights in every democratic country is 'rubbish'.
As for bleeping swearwords: I think this is a form of censureship and goes against freedom of speech.
But I live in the Netherlands and here swearwords aren't bleeped. I find those bleeps very annoying when I watch something from american television.

I din't meant IT was rubbish just the way people always use as some sort of excuse.

No indeed I would not. Because I see no need for it. It has no use, other then being insulting.

Then why is there a NEED to INSULT other people's beliefs

I answered that a sentence later. And I already explained that in the quote of Hans Teeuwen.
And religious jokes don't insult people personally. These jokes are aimed at a group of people.

But what is the NEED to insult someone?

We are now at the point of repeating points: I already answered that and spoke about how everybody gets insulted and that is the price of a free society with free speech and freedom of religion.
I think it's a small price to pay for freedom.

Unless there are some fresh arguments, I rest my case.

A group of people who have chosen a religion for a reason. And no matter how much 'freedom of speech' there is there are somethings that need to be censored because I know it's not aimed at a specific person but- if someone made a joke like the joke cowgirlfromhell made it would make me (and proably others) feel as if there is something funny about their religion and what they believe.

You know what I'm going to go around every shop tommorow and call every asian a paki and scream S**t at the top of my voice- let's see what happens. And my exscuse will be 'it's freedom of speech'
Let's see how that one works out. But I shouldn't be in ANY trouble because of freedom of speech

amazondebs said:
i'm all for free speech
but i think he is being insulting purely to get a reputation as being outrageous for fans, it wasn't funny at all, there was no joke or pun that i can see
so basing him purely on this video i would say he is a jerk


i do not know what this show is exactly or what the girls are trying to do but engaging him like that and the way they are speaking they just seem to be making a mockery out of their own beliefs themselves
posted 18 days ago.

Pippi21 said:
Well, I do think he's trying to make a (good) point: nothing should be "holy" enough for people not being able to make jokes about it anymore. Satire is a way for civilisation to regulate itself. In some cases you have to be very explicit to make your point, the same way those girls have been very explicit by saying homosexuality is a sin.
Yes, a joke can be insulting, but people should just have to deal with that, because religion can be very insulting to us non-believers too.

But being a non-believer is a PERSONAL CHOICE for PERSONAL REASONS if you don't like jokes being made about you then why bother with other people.

if its way over then yes

God's a wanker

You guys have freedom of religion, guess what??

I have freedom of speech. I'm gonna make any joke or comment i what and if someone doesn't like it - tough they'll just have to put up with it! Cause GUESS WHAT? IT'S A FREE WORLD!....well, supposedly.

I don't agree with your religion i don't agree with some of (ALOT of) the beliefs you have and teach to your children and repeat to other people.....DOES THAT MEAN I THINK YOU SHOULDN'T BE ALLOWED TO HOLD/REPEAT/TEACH THOSE BELIEFS?? NO!

So it goes the same way with jokes i make about your religion/any religion or any opinions i may have - you might not like it but you have NO RIGHT to tell me that i can't have these beliefs or repeat them.

But being a non-believer is a PERSONAL CHOICE for PERSONAL REASONS if you don't like jokes being made about you then why bother with other people.

Emmm no sorry this is wrong. I didn't choose not to believe in anything i just don't believe in anything. Why does everybody think it's some choice i've mulled over one day and i decided, "you know what? i hate god i'm not going to follow him!" It's not like that. I don't believe in anything because i just don't believe in anything!

And if you don't like the jokes being made about you fine don't listen to them/ ignore them! I peronally disagree with religious people, NOT when they're joking, but when they tell me i'm going to hell for burn eternity!! Do i rave on about how they shouldn't get to say that....NO! Cause they should be allowed to say that(despite the fact that it can be highly insulting and i completely disagree with it!) and plus lets face it, it just gives me a chance to call them morons!

I think that they're highly offensive, and I've actually cried many times over religious slurs and "jokes." When you think that making fun of someone's religion is O.K., you're putting it down, demoralizing it, and desensitizing people till they think, "Hey! It's okay to criticize and joke about people for their religion!"

I mean, to me it's the same as being homophobic and poking fun at gays, or being racist and throwing slurs out at blacks or people of other ethnicities. Now, if you don't like the word "slur," (which I think is TOTALLY similar to "jokes" poking fun at religion) then just go ahead and think joke. If you made some "joke" about someone of a different ethnicity than your own, or a gay, people'd be on you like flies on rice. But it's okay to joke about people's religions? Why can't you just stick to whatever you believe in (or don't believe in), and leave other religions alone? It IS offensive, no matter if you or anyone else thinks it's funny. It hurts.

And I just wanted to say that I would NEVER joke about someone's religion (or atheists), because I know how it feels. Why do you joke about other people's religions (or them not believing in anything) in the first place? Does it make you feel better? Do you get a kick out of feeling better and higher than them? Do you like making them feel badly? Do you like thinking of them as fools? Please, really do answer these questions. I want to know what you get out of these "jokes." A good laugh at someone else's expense?

Sorry I'm getting really emotional about this topic, but it touched home base.

'If you made some "joke" about someone of a different ethnicity than your own, or a gay, people'd be on you like flies on rice'

I make no difference between jokes about religion or jokes about gays and other groups, they all fall under free speech and therefor all should be allowed. But generally homosexuals aren't as touchy about JOKES as Christians are. Perhaps they see there are more important things to worry about then someone who disses your God.

'Why do you joke about other people's religions (or them not believing in anything) in the first place?'
It's funny.
' Does it make you feel better?'
Humor always makes me feel better, laughing is good for your health.
'Do you get a kick out of feeling better and higher than them?'
I don't make or listen to religious jokes to feel better and higher. So no.
'Do you like making them feel badly?'
No, but a restriction on my, or my friends, freedom of speech would make me feel a lot worse. I don't restrict Christians in their freedom of religion or freedom of speech either.
'Do you like thinking of them as fools?'
Of some. Like the Westboro Baptist Church. Or Bush. Or Ann Coulter. Or some of the Christian in our goverment who wanted to remove a billboard with a woman in bikini on it.
Or any other Christian that made a fool out of himself.
Or any person that made a fool out of himself really.

I can't believe some people. Seriously.

So i'm just gonna say. I joke about EVERYTHING!Including things which apply to me, ie jokes about women, white people, scottish people, british people and athiests.
If people get insulted that's their deal, their problem cause i'm never aiming for that - i'm aiming to have fun and if they get upset because they're being overly sensitive then more fool them.

Does it make you feel better? Do you get a kick out of feeling better and higher than them?

Yes it does make me feel better i love jokes especially jokes about things that arent' PC - sorry i don't know where you come from but where i'm from not everything is serious. Making a "joke" about someone/something/ a group of people DOESN'T mean i think i'm higher than them. It means i'm making a joke, having a laugh - i don't think i'm higher or better than anyone. It must suck to be so sensitive and be offended by everything.

I think of tons of people as fools! It's a personal opinion and last i checked i could feel that way if i wanted. I'm not saying don't be offended i'm saying WHY be offended when you don't have to be. It's childish and immature not to be able to laugh at yourself and others.

"Humor always makes me feel better, laughing is good for your health."

I don't care if laughing is good for your health, you're laughing at someone else's expense. But obviously that doesn't matter to either of you.

"'Why do you joke about other people's religions (or them not believing in anything) in the first place?'
It's funny."

So? There are lots of things that people think are funny that are also cruel, and subject people to things that they shouldn't have to go through. Does that mean you should still do those things?

"Yes it does make me feel better"

Wow. That's sad.

"It's childish and immature not to be able to laugh at yourself and others."

No. It's immature to say insults are jokes, and not care who you're hurting when you say them.

"It must suck to be so sensitive and be offended by everything."

It must suck to be able to throw out "jokes" that hurt people and not even feel an ounce of remorse.

I come from a place where not everything is serious. But we definitely don't poke fun at other people's religions or beliefs (or non-beliefs). I'm not going to get though to either of you because you are used to cracking jokes and making fun of other religions, and I'm not going to change that over the internet. I was just voicing my opinion, because you really need to think about the people that you're affecting. I know you guys think it's funny, and that you can have freedom of speech and opinions, but does that mean you should say things like that? I understand if you hold resentment to people that say you're going to burn in hell, but come on, lots of us don't say that. When you make jokes about religion, you're not only getting back at the "you're going to hell"-ers, you're offending people who have never said anything bad about atheists to their faces (or at all). You guys are so used to joking about this that it seems stupid and defensive when people get offended.

Let me tell you, it's perfectly justifiable.

And please answer my other question:

"Do you like making them feel bad?"

Meh, I figure there is humour in everything. As long as we can laugh at ourselves, I think everything is fair game.

so you think this religion joke is wrong

Jesus walks on water

but chuck norris walks on jesus

or

god said let there be light

and chuck norris gave him a roundhouse kick and told him: say please

I think any religion joke that crosses the line (insults people's religions) is wrong.

and who draws the line?

There's just a point when it becomes more insulting than funny. Nobody makes that "line," it's just there. It's pretty obvious when you say something offensive and when you say something that only really strictly religious people think is offensive, and other religious people think is funny. There are innocent, harmless jokes that aren't very rude, and then there are ones that are the exact opposite of that.

well yeah that´s the thing maybe for you the jokes are innocent but what about the other guys that think that the joke is offensive they dont have the right to say is offensive because it isn´t enough for you?

I'm not saying that. I'm just saying that if the majority of people think that it's not offensive (who are religions, not non-religious), then it isn't as offensive as jokes that the majority of religious people think ARE offensive. Does that make sense?

But seriously, I don't think I can go on arguing about this much longer, because if you're used to poking fun at religion, then you can't just change that over the internet. You see what I'm saying? It's like if someone starts smoking, in a way. You can't just stop. You're so used to it. Probably a bad example, but I'm tired and that's the best I could think up right now, LOL! ;-)

if that´s how you think

I just don't see the need to make fun of other people's religions, that's all. You have your beliefs/non-beliefs, they have theirs. I wish people could just leave it at that, that's all. You don't have to agree with each other. You don't have to like each other. But you also don't have to criticize and make fun of one another for what they believe/don't believe in.

That's basically my point right there.

"You don't have to agree with each other. You don't have to like each other. But you also don't have to criticize..."

wow you don´t have to criticize? really?

Your criticizing my belief that i should be allowed to joke about anything i want! Who the hell are you to talk? I believe everyone should be able to say what they want - but then that's me a supporter of freedom of speech and all! The ONLY person (take note here) that can say whether i'm trying to make a joke or insult someone is ME! GOT IT? I don't care how you take it, or anyone else! All that matters to me is my intention....and i never try and insult someone unless they insult me first. So call my jokes insults if you want i'm just glad i'm not that overly sensitive and touchy. YAY me! =P Peace out bros!

I give up. You guys obviously don't get what I'm trying to say. And SG1, you seem very defensive. Sorry if I offended you, it wasn't my intention...

I agree with you , hallemay550. Nobody wants to change their views because of maybe 1 person saying you are gong to burn in hell. There are zillions of jokes about christianity and other religions than they are of atheists. Because everyone tip toes around atheists like their babies that don't want to be offend but still yet like to offend.

And it's hard to 'avoid' jokes aimed at your religion when it it your religion. Like it's hard to avoid someone calling you fat when you are fat.

The ONLY person (take note here) that can say whether i'm trying to make a joke or insult someone is ME! GOT IT?I don't care how you take it, or anyone else!

How ignorant do you sound there? 'oh, I don't care how you take it, or anyone else!' I'll answer VERY.When that person said to you 'you're going to burn in hell' I don't think you fell on the floor out of laughter, i bet you were quite defensive about the choices you have made about your religion. And as Hallemay550 said it's not like every single christian says that about every single atheist. Many people these days are very open minded about other religions and don't need to make fun ofothers. I PERSONALLY think that if you fell like you have to make fun of someone ele's choices then ou must be VERY insecure about your own.

Freedom of speech, I actually don't et would you go up to a black person and call them nigger just so you could have your daily dose of laughter 'to make your health better'. Why don't you go into a shop and scream every single swearword you know and see what happens. And when the police take you away you will be alright because 'it's freedom of speech and you don't care how you take it, or anyone else!' I don't think many/any lawyers will advice you to plead 'Freedom of Speech'!

Religion is becoming a taboo subject and people are scared to make a joke. Jokes are light-hearted pieces of humor that communities need.

Yes, I'm an atheist but that does not make me better or worse than anyone else. I respect people's beliefs, I don't walk around insulting their religion. But insulting people and making a joke are two different things, and some people find it hard to distinguish the two.

To be honest it isn't so much what the person says, it's how they say it. However, nowadays with world issues with religion, everyone avoids these jokes like the plague and that is just adding fuel to the fire, it's making people discriminate and turning jokes into insults. It isn't society's problem, it's the government's who are creating the feuds, intentional or not.

I'm not happy with this debate though because some people are reacting so immaturely, it should be a rational discussion. People are just wanting to get their points across, this isn't a heated arguement to see who wins. Personally, I'm interested to see where everyone's opinion lies.

The ONLY person (take note here) that can say whether i'm trying to make a joke or insult someone is ME! GOT IT?I don't care how you take it, or anyone else!

How ignorant do you sound there? 'oh, I don't care how you take it, or anyone else!' I'll answer VERY

Ignorant is not the word - i know what i'm saying and the implications that it carries with it, i just don't care.

And actually i believe i made that clear when i expanded on my point and explained with,

All that matters to me is my intention....and i never try and insult someone unless they insult me first.

And actually, yes i agree with Vikitoria i shouldn't be this wound up i just don't like it when people assume they know what i'm thinking or trying to do, when weirdly enough they're not me, and tell me i'm trying to insult someone when i'm making a joke, it's just you'd assume i'd know better because you know i'm me and they're not, but according to some obviously not.

That's what i ment by "my intensions and not carring about the way someone else took it". But obvoiusly either i'm not being clear or others aren't understanding me, so i'll withdraw from this discussion.

Not really.

And it doesn't have anything to do with the fact that I'm an atheist.

At all.

Here, let me tell a totally non offensive religious joke.

Q: Why can't Jesus hold M&Ms?

A: Because they would fall threw the holes in his hands!

See, was that so bad?

Yeah, I know, I'm an asshole.

I, personally, do not care for them nor say them. Yet, that is not for me to make the decision for others. I would hope someone knows when to draw the line, but what can you do?

God created the planet.
But Chuck Norris created God.

I think you should be asking "Is okay to poke fun at CHRISTIANS?" Because we all know it's wrong to make jokes about Islam. (heck, that could get you KILLED!)

I feel the same way with racial jokes:

When you're in your own home or relatives'/close friends' homes, then fine. Say whatever you wish, what can I do about that?

But when you're in public and therefore in a position to respect others, as long as the joke;

1) Is clearly not discriminatory.

2) Your audience is not offended or does not appear to be offended at the slightest.

3) The joke remains a joke, and nothing more.

Then I see no problems with it.

Know what, let me post some examples. Cause I have a feeling someone may be..confused about what I just explicated (or attempted to);

"Q: Why can't Jesus hold M&Ms?

A: Because they would fall threw the holes in his hands!"

This, I have no issues with. Heck, I even cracked up a little.


"A Chinese man, a Mexican man, and a Caucasian man are in a small boat out in the Atlantic. Their boat is flooding, and they realize that they need to release a good portion of their luggage. So they decide to get rid of what they believe is unneeded in America.

CM: I have too much of this in my country.
And he throws a bowl of rice into the ocean.

MM: I have too much of this in my country.
And he throws a plate of tacos into the ocean.

CauM: I have too many of these in my country.
And he picks up the Mexican man and throws him into the ocean."

This joke would depend on the audience and those around the jokester, but when I first heard this joke, I admit it cracked me up. I had and have absolutely nothing against Mexicans, but I knew the joker's intentions were not cruel. So I didn't mind it.

Then, we have jokes like these;

"What do you call a good looking Lebanese woman?
Asif."

"What did the mexican fireman name his kids?

Jose and hose B."

"Why do black people always have sex on their minds?

Because they have pubes on their heads."

"What language do jewish homos speak?

Heblew."

*sigh* As I've said, what you say in your own home can not be controlled.

But, I prefer that these jokes are not said in public for others to hear for obvious, senseful reasoning. -_-

Not as a general rule. I mean, yeah there are jokes that are specifically meant to insult, but those aren't the norm.