I'm not a fan of Barbie and haven't watched any of her films, so I'm going to have to go with the character I know. Bloom.

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I hate to say that any one is a Mary Sue, but Bloom gets my vote for this one. There is no way Barbie is one. I have seen all of her films so far and there is no sign to me that she is one.

I stopped watching the Barbie movies like, forever ago. But I know that she's just this universal symbol for little girls everywhere. Barbie is shown literally doing everything. Going to space; riding horses; being a veterinarian; being a teacher... She was this icon for little girls (and even women) during times where the most a mom could do was stay home and clean the house. I think that's why I liked Barbie so much growing up, is because Mattel was smart enough to not just make her the obvious girly doll toy, but allow her to show girls that they don't just have to confine themselves to the stereotypical ways of society. Though that's kind of died down now, I still remember reading the Barbie books that would get released, and get really excited at the thought of becoming a veterinarian (because that's what I wanted to be when I was young), since Barbie was one too.

Bloom never got me that excited about anything- okay, maybe during fights, but that's an obvious reason to be rooting or cheering for her. Barbie made me happy for more important things, and even if the movies might be really bad, she's still not a big of a Mary-sue as Bloom.

I'm on season 3 but if she turns into a marry-sue later I might change my mind but I'm counting her as a Jem Character for now.But for Barbie she's a marry-sue she has no personality she can do anything and nothing can beat her.I think there's another Barbie in a different place but she works at a daycare telling stories about the other Barbie that can do anything.

^ She does, I promise...

When i was like 6-8 years old i like barbie i even had the collection of them, but when im in age 9 i like winx club more and bloom is one of my favorites too that 's why i pick her

^What! Noooooooo! She's not my favorite character anymore Riven and Musa is now.

Barbie isn't a Mary-Sue at all. Just watch some of her movies.

Bloom is the biggest Mary-Sue of all time.

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@haterarxene Oh Bloom is not the biggest marry-sue if she didn't started out as one.And I watched almost all of her movies and she never got defected she can do anything and everyone loves her she's a big marry-sue.And Bloom is turning in a marry-sue in season three some one told me and it kinda of look she is turning in to one and I'm at the start of season three.

I actually think she started becoming a Sue in season 2. Season 1 she was fine. If you want to know why I think such just follow the link above--it may be spoilery.

Sailor-Moon is the best Mary-Sue...

Nope nope it was still Barbie..

Definitely.

@Lolenard Sailor moon isn't a marry-sue.

^No she still had some flaws at lest more than one unlike now.And in my opinion she look like she's turning one in the start of season three and for a girl who only have one flaw they are putting way too much development or at lest trying so that's why I said that I was worried.

The focus has always been on her, she's always had the 'perfect boyfriend', she has 'the most powerful power ever', pretty much everyone loves her and those who don't (like Mitzi) are treated like villains, etc. The only thing saving her from being a Sue in season 1 is the fact that she was rather clumsy and socially awkward--by the end of season one she lost the clumsiness and the socially awkwardness and just became a Sue. Of course that's all my opinion though.

In season two even through it's hard to see she was quiet competitive and determined.When she made a mistake she was hard on her self and ashley was meaner in season 2 than season 1 cause she kept fighting with the trix and saying how they'll win instead of them.

Being hard on oneself is another trademark Sue sign--the character is hard on themselves and then all the other characters flock around and help and blame themselves. Season 2 and the taunting comes from the whole 'the most powerful ever' thing.

No it's not most of my favorite characters that's not a marry-sue is hard on them self take Courtney from total for a example. And how is it a trade mark more than marry-sues have this problem with his/her character. And those two flaws disappear in season 3.

I'm not sure if I'm getting what your saying. You're saying that being hard on yourself isn't a Sue trait, right? If so, I think it depends on how it's done. If the character is hard on themselves for a good reason it's not Sueish, but if--say--they spill a glass of milk and start talking about what a failure they are, than that's a bit Sueish. But with Courtney I don't really see her as a Sue. And the dissaparance of flaws is a sure-sign of a Sue. By definition Sue's are 'perfect' and flawless.

But like I said, these are all just personal opinions, for the most part.

Ashley, When a character is hard on them self it seems like good development even through not all of the time it is development. And I know some marry-sues that are hard on them self for making tiny mistakes but you are right most of the time it's done when they make a big mistake. Which is rare for a marry-sue. And yes I'm saying that a character being hard on themselves is not a sign. A lot of non marry-sues have that trait. And that definition is enough to get it around but when I think of marry-sues the first thing that comes in mind is that but when a character is growing into a marry-sue compared to a character that never changed it seems like to me that Barbie is a bigger sue even through I count both as one. And I do agree that what we are talking about is just opinion after opinion.

I think it depend on the character whether or not it's good development. For some it is, for others, the character is just whiney. I like to look at it on an individual basis. I'm going to link you to the definition of a Sue, not because I don't think you know what it is, but because I think we both kind of stayed from it. link To be brutally honest, I think Bloom falls under all the definitions aside from goth Sue.
And this one is totally just my opinion but I think Bloom was pretty much always a Sue. Except for maybe in the first few episodes.

To me the definition of marry-sue is a character that is perfect and can do anything and nothing can beat them they also have no flaws or personality. And everyday people make definitions of stuff so that could be wrong. And you took that and made an article don't you know copy right. And in my opinion she falls under mage sue. Also is this types of sues or just different all around stereo type. I don't agree that she always was marry-sue unless in a couple of episodes. I think she turned one at the end of season 2 but hey it's an opinion.

That is Bloom though isn't it? By the end of the show all her flaws have been eliminated. She's practically the 'perfect girl' with a perfect life. Everything she ever lost (her parents and her home planet) came back. And to make that worse, they were dead and came back to life. Pretty much no one can beat the mighty dragon flame. That article is like a dictionary...in fact that's what it's called. I specifically stated at the beginning of my article that the definitions of Mary Sue were from that article and not mine. I simply stated why Bloom fit the bill. It's not copy written. What I did was like typing an essay for school; the kind where your teacher has you pull quotes from a book or website and then do a works cited. So unless all school essays are copy written, mine is not as I cited my sources and am not using it to make a profit. It's types of Sues not stereotypes. That's your opinion and I respect that, and I hope you respect mine as well. This is probably just an 'agree to disagree' type of debate.

Yeah, I respect your opinion I just like to share mine. And by the way not by the end of the show her flaws came out way before that. And thanks for explaining that it is not copy right.

That's good. That's also cool by me. Yup, no problem.

They have made more movies of Barbie than of Bloom.

how does the amount of movies she's been in make her more of a mary-sue???
dude? read a dictionary?

Definitely Bloom