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Marius as Lestat's maker

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i think its better that magnus turned him into a vampire because its one reason why lestat does not follow the rules
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Lestat's passion for rebeling springs from his mortal life where he was - just like in the vampire sociaty - expected to behave some certain way by the rest of the nobelmen, they tried to pin him down to something he didn't want to be. This is why, basically, he's breaking the rules - not because of the one who made him into a vampire.

Plus, in his mortal life he didn't have but yearned for his father's love and he was numerous times called "impossible", by his brothers. He has MAJOR daddy issues, which for one thing the repeated murder dream reflects.

In his vampire life, he eventually got a daddy, the loving and appreciating one - in Marius. This adding to the basic reason that is the generally rebeling against the vampire sociaty. As in, he clearly broke the rules to provoke Marius to punish him. He even took it to the degree of literally saying to him (in the end of QOTD): "I may even obey the rules. Some of them, anyway, who knows. What are you going to do if I don't? And by the way, haven't I asked you this before?"

So in short: The way I see it, the reason why Lestat is breaking rules is most significantly his will to rebel against what he's expected to be like as a vampire and to this matter the maker is insignificant - and for another reason because he has Marius as his long yearned daddy, who he just loves to provoke to discipline him. I don't see the maker's identity significant. (:

But this is just how I look at the matter, of course.

'And I'd been born restless -- the dreamer, the angry one, the complainer.'

"My brothers assured him that his youngest son wouldn't be gone long. I'd come running home as soon as I was made to do something I didn't want to do."

'Always I'd felt that I couldn't be a good human being and fight them. To be good meant to be defeated by them. Unless of course I found a more interesting idea of goodness.'

In the last quote he's talking about his father and brothers, who he had repeatedly dremat about maniavally slaughtering, liiterally, in his nightly dreams.
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Myf_1992 said:
He doesn't follow the rules because he is the youngest brother, destined to inherit nothing, yet still expected to act like a Lord. His brother is regarded as a saint by his father, where as he is almost regretted.

Being rebellious and attention seeking is all part of the youngest sibling criteria. He obviously through his rebelling as a boy/young man he's searching for attention, especially that of his father's. He is rebelling because his father is neglectful, his brother's tease him, he feels trapped, suck in a castle he will not inherited above all he's bored. He has no friends (until Nicki), how would you spend your day stuck in a cold castle with no one for company and nothing of value to do?

He also does it to test boundaries, you'll notice he ponders what the others are thinking and will do when he breaks this and that rules. Again its a part of his attention-seeking personality, a trait of narcissistic people, determined to be the centre of all worlds. And of course as Bendaimmortal says, he is pushing Marius. Marius sets rules, Lestat breaks them, Marius punishes him - a part of a natural father-son relationship.

His constant curiosity is, I think, boredom, I mean cmon eternity can probably get very dull. And also short attention span, i.e. getting bored easily is also another trait of the youngest sibling.
He lets his mind wonder to possibilities, and so to satisfy his thoughts he puts them to the test, for example, asking David if he wants to be a vampire at the end of Queen of the Damned.


But,as Bendaimmortal knows, I am on Team-Magnus, I believe his cruelty and madness adds to Lestat's temperamental personality, but his rule-breaking is not a part of this. If you do want to understand further my arguments on the whole Magnus/Marius I suggest you read the debate myself and Bedaimmortal have after this article.
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Wow. Thanks for that. I can't believe I didn't think of the boredom/trapped point and all those even more indepth points you pointe dout... Well, at least I was looking at the same elements. :D
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Myf_1992 said:
Most of it comes naturally to me (I have youngest sibling syndrome). And the boredom thing because when he is not endangering the world with Akasha, or trapped in the body of a human, he always seems restless and on the edge to do something else. I think that's why he probably stalks his pray for 6 months before devouring them- everybody needs a hobby.
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