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Jesus Are you afraid by death ?
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i am not afraid for myself just how sad my friends and family would be when i die
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I don't know...
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No it will be wonderful to look into love loving face of my Lord some day
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If you beleve in god you can't be afraid of anything
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Yes for the pain;No for where I would end up
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I'm not afraid of death, i'm afraid of how I'm going to die.
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I have been, but not really.
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Not afraid of death, afraid of going to hell
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We don't like to think about death. It's not the most pleasant subject, and we try to avoid even discussing it seriously or giving it any diligent study. If our career plans involved a foreign assignment, our desk would be littered with brochures and travel folders as we would try to learn all that we could about our forthcoming destination. If we were scheduled for an exam that our lives depended upon, we would be doing some serious studying. Yet the most certain event in our future is one we try our best to ignore and attempt to pawn off to a comfortable distance.
I once said to a financial executive (who was about 50 years of age) that I was traveling with that he probably had less than a thousand weekends left in his life. He was pretty startled! "What do you mean???" he gasped.
"Do the math," I suggested to him. With an actuarial expectation of about 20 years left in his life, and with nominally 50 weeks/year, that leaves him with abouuut a thousand weekends. (When we say "twenty years," that sounds remote, academic, intangible. When we think of "weekends," it tends to confront us with something we can wrap our heads around, a more graspable reality!)
Our appointment with death is an absolute certainty,,,,,probably our only certainty. It may come sooner than we expect: a car crash, a stray bullet, possibly unforeseen stroke. I am sure all know of personal examples where death has come suddenly, and without warning, without any preparations. When it finally does come, what do we expect it to be like??
One of the penalties of our casual,, or reluctant,,, attitude about death and dying is that most people are simply soo steeped in myths and misconceptions. Almost every commonly held belief is erroneous, misleading, and contrary to what we do know about this subject.
There are numerous books that have been published about "near-death experiences," which at best are less than reliable sources, no matter how well intended. But there ARE several incidences that we can trust as reliable. Stephen, as he was being stoned, gave us a glimpse:
But he, being full of the Holy Ghost, looked up steadfastly into heaven, and saw the glory of God, and Jesus standing on the right hand of God, And said, Behold, I see the heavens opened, and the Son of man standing on the right hand of God. - Acts 7:55,56
So this whole idea that being greeted by the Lord Himself,,,at least in his case,,,is not far-fetched. As serious Christians, we can take significant comfort from Stephen's experience!!. Paul also speaks of a "near-death" type of experience in which he was caught up to paradise. Since this happened 14 years before writing about it to the Corinthians, some scholars believe it may have coincided with his experience at Lystra where he was stoned and dragged out of the city and left for dead. (Whether this was a "near-death" experience or an actual death-and-return, we'll have to wait until we can ask him:)
What makes this whole subject so darn difficult to try and research is that most information is not only unreliable; it is the specific focus of deceit by the ultimate deceiver himself. One of the first mistakes is for someone to look for answers in the wrong places. Channeling, necromancy (attempted communication with the dead), and all other forms of dealing with demonic activity are expressly prohibited in the Scripture. Even such seemingly harmless things such as a Ouija board,, or role-playing parlor games can prove extremely dangerous and are not to be taken lightly!!.
Satan's deceptions are designed to eliminate any awareness of a coming judgment and accountability, and to promote the perceptions that all roads lead to the same place. (Remember, he is the "prince of this world," and the "prince of the power of the air.") Don't be among the naïve or impressionable: this is very dangerous territory to be playing around in. I have seen firsthand numerous examples, caused by at first what seemed to be simply, innocent pastime.
For such are false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming themselves into the apostles of Christ. And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light. - 2 Corinthians 11:13, 14
Also, Jesus warned us to:
Enter ye in at the strait [narrow] gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in there at: Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it. Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves. . - Matthew 7:13-15
If the gate you're dealing with and relying on is wide, with a large majority taking advantage of it, you've got the wrong gate! And for many, the truth about death,, should be terrifying. They will be in for a shocking surprise.
This subject also squarely confronts the issues of Heaven and Hell. Unpleasant. Controversial. And clearly the subject of fanciful folklore in all directions and dimensions possible,,,,,,,
The Hebrew Sheol, and the Greek Hades, are not the grave. The grave is where the body goes. Sheol and Hades is where the departed spirits go. (For this brief discussion, I will regard them as equivalent.)
Gehenna, however, is their final disposition. Hades is cast into Gehenna at the end. (In fact, their topology appears to be opposites: Hades is presented as geocentric; Gehenna is in "the outer darkness.")
It is pretty significant that Jesus spoke soo much more about "Hell" than He did about Heaven. The very concept of the need for a Savior presupposes the avoidance of the otherwise certain destiny of desolation and eternal punishment. The good news is that you and I are the beneficiaries of a love letter: a letter written in blood on a wooden cross erected in Judea about two thousand years ago and which is the pivot point…The FULCRUM of all history and the entire universe. The crucifixion was not a tragedy: it was a crowning achievement. His achievement makes it possible FOR ALL to avoid an otherwise certain destiny.
There are many in the secular world who do not even take the existence of the "afterlife" seriously. There are many who do, however. Frank J. Tipler, Professor of Mathematical Physics at Tulane University, is a major theoretician in the field of global general relativity that mysterious branch of physics created by Stephen Hawking and Roger Penrose. In pursuing a mathematical model involving the end of the universe, Tipler (a professed atheist!!) came to two conclusions (one obvious, and one stunning):
1) Using the most advanced and sophisticated methods of modern physics, and relying solely on the rigorous procedures of logic that science demands, he discovered a proof of the existence of God. (You're thinking, "No kidding, Dick Tracy!" I’m thinking something else!! LOL)
2) He also now believes that every human being who ever lived will be resurrected from the dead.
He claims to have arrived at these conclusions about God and immortality "in exactly the same way physicists calculate the properties of an electron." (Now while I personally disagree with much of his published book, this turnabout for a professed atheist IS interesting! But you can learn more about the resurrection from the most important chapter in the Bible: 1 Corinthians 15.)
A far more insightful book is by Erwin Lutzer, One Minute After You Die. He is a truly delightful person, and has pastored the Moody Church in Chicago for over twenty years.
Yours in His service
P.J.P.J.
I have many other long and unnecessary comments
on this spot, the Jesus spot etc. as well as many others.
P.S.
I’m truly glad my facts were up to snuff, I guess seminary school
has some meritorious advantages?
Yep, like my current user icon says: Sometimes you just gotta say what the f---? !!!
You should credit Chuck Missler, not your schooling.
link
IF I did do something, because I obviously must have for you to come at me in such a manner I am truly sorry! I really don’t recall?? Please mail me so we can settle this? I have never had anyone come at me with such hostility before..
I suppose it never would dawn on you that on his and Nancy’s site that article amongst many others is compilations(Along with other brothers and sisters in Christ, contributions some in interviews, others in college papers) of MY material that his wife used during her 15 years of research for her tape series “Way of Agape?” (Which she later garnered into a book format)
I really don’t want to go into much more here unless you insist.
This is a spot where I try to show some respect, and don’t kid around as much.
I have known both of them for over 20 years, I met Chuck in Ohio at a convention when I used to
do a lot of evangelistic work. Like I said, if you need to know more, just mail me,or we can chat on IM, there is no need for this.
Yours in His service
P.J.P.J.
Surely, if you're as respected and learned in this area as you say you are, you can come up with your own words on the subject. Regardless of where the Misslers may or may not have gotten their information, you are still stealing their actual words and claiming them as your own.
I know you tend to copy and paste a good number of your comments in various spots - and that's fine. But religion is a serious topic to many - and one that's very personal. The others who are talking in this spot are speaking from their hearts - their own thoughts, their own words, their own beliefs. You're merely copying and pasting something from a website. How is this being respectful to anyone else in this spot? They think about a subject, form a comment and share it with others. At least respect them enough to either respond with your OWN thoughts and feelings... or at the very least admit that what you're sharing is just information you found on a website.
You have copy and pasted your words directly from the website I linked to, signed your own name to those words - and referred to them as being your own. You credited your own schooling for those words, not the glory of your right mouse button and the paste function.
"Slander is an untruthful oral (spoken) statement about a person that harms the person's reputation or standing in the community." - from link
Where is the untruthful statement? Please, direct me to it.
Also, you've stolen words from other sources. Rabbi Ron Goldberg, for one. Ah, but I'm sure you'll tell me that you met him during your extensive work in the Jewish community and all of his work is based on yours, as well.
I have evidence to back up MY statements. Do you have evidence to back up yours...?
I have made rude and occasionally shockingly crude Double entendre without as much as a proverbial peep, from anyone! Jokes, put downs, sarcastic remarks, all done in fun of course yet NO ONE has yet to challenge or become affronted? I have gone so far as to make off color music parodies about FanPop members more than once, (always keeping in touch that there ARE young minds and therefore gauging and censoring myself to a degree.)
BUT WHY when I try to sneak in the “good news” undercover of a comment, does a person go out of their way to try and discredit me? (Same personality I believe that enjoyed themselves once before this and dined off of the drama) What is the catastrophic, dire, calamitous, demoralizing, dreadful, devastating, earth-shattering excuse this time? Last time it was just done to protect yourself from everyone else, so a screenshot was taken, because it was for YOUR own good??? AND it was still for YOUR own good when you had to paste it up for everyone to see. WHATS the reason now? Trying to cut another notch on your cross for another false prophet? THREE DAYS I post My Fathers food. _
After almost 3 months of doing NOTHING BUT acting like a fool, parading around my ignorant side, for a lame laugh do I now get scrutinized? I wonder what puppeteer would prevent someone to simply mail me first.
Maybe there is an explanation?
Noo Can’t be! This is FanPop? God in heaven, forbid it!! If someone has a modicum of intelligence beyond someone else!
I better hurry up and see how this could be possible!!!???
You copy and pasted another person's words and claimed them as your own. I told you that you should credit them. That's ALL I said and you're the one who started turning it into a big issue.
And now, because you can't defend your own behavior... You're trying to play a martyr and bring up things that have nothing whatsoever to do with you in order to deflect attention away from your own actions. Well, good luck with that.
You, it would seem, would rather go to my mother and ask her questions that upset her and make her cry.
I'm not posting anything further here, as I have nothing to say to you that would be appropriate for this spot.
How much clearer do I need to be?
I tried to keep it low key, but no.
You are running your mouth about something that you are clueless.
I asked you civilly to talk to me and we could chat. But no, you want everyone to think how crafty you are that you caught me. Well the joke is on you! I am totally embarrassed that I had to lower myself to such a level to defend my integrity to a person that is proud of her argumentative skills! All over a paper that I had written almost 20 years ago and gave permission to use as they wished to two dear friends!
And I'll repeat myself again: For someone as educated as you claim to be on these matters, why are you copying a 20 year old paper instead of simply speaking from your heart about these things?
You keep blathering on and casting blame in my direction... but I still don't see you answering either of these questions.
Oh, and if you ever make my mother cry again... You'll learn all new meanings of the word "hostile".
And I sent you a PM to chat - one that you ignored entirely.
For instance, when you ask a scientist to explain something to you... You're not looking for the scientist to whip out a science textbook and read it to you verbatim. You want the scientist to talk to you, to explain things to you - in his own words. Even if the textbook was written by him initially, it still isn't a good substitute for actual heartfelt conversation.
And that is why I feel it's disrespectful. And, to me, it's even worse if you ARE as learned as you claim to be. People could use the guidance that could come from that kind of knowledge, but it's useless if you're only mindlessly copying and pasting to them.
As for the original authorship of the articles in question... I'll be honest. I don't believe you wrote everything you've quoted. I don't believe that Chuck Missler, Nancy Missler and Rabbi Goldberg all stole (or were given) your work. But I have no proof that you didn't write these things... just as you have no proof that you did. So I'm not about to argue that point... but don't expect me to just roll over and believe what you're saying, either.
If I can contact him. I will find a way for him to talk to you.
but he is usually in israel this time of year.
First and foremost I met Chuck and Nancy (Missler) in Ohio when he first took Hal Lindsay’s advice to do what he enjoyed most, teaching scripture. To date I have known this Brother in Christ for approximately 20 years To say this man is a genius would be a gross mischaracterization. I don’t feel I have the right to delve deeply into his personal life to explain my actions to any MAN, but a brief overview shall unfortunately be necessary. Chuck at one Pont in his life was extremely prosperous. His profession in the financial community he was known as a turnaround specialist. He spent over 25 years taking sick technology companies impending bankrupt into viable businesses, turning a profit from. He was nothing short of masterfully talented and gifted mind with resolute attitude to get at the root of any problem. Bluntly put he made many millions of dollars, and he lost, many millions of dollars. Their marriage was on the rocks, but God turned their marriage around and taught them some valuable lessons, from his point of view he was grateful god put it back together, Nancy wasn’t satisfied with that, she wanted to understand the biblical basis for what God did in their lives so after 15 years of research resulted in her famous tape series “the way of agape” The point is, the marriage was turned around by God working through her. Her concept from the bible was her responsibility was simply to hold him pre eminent and leave his problems to the Lord. He was raised in Southern California from German parents. He was always a nerd, a HAM operator, technical nut. At 9 he flew a light plane. When he was a teen and other guys wee hopping up cars he was building a digital computer in his garage, back in the late 40’s!
Through circumstances he received a congressional appointment to the U.S naval academy at Annapolis.
In 63 to 68 he was coerced to work for ford motor company by Lee Iacoca .
After this from the 70’s through the 80’s he was led through as a corporate development specialist, this is when he got into companies that were into trouble. Banks had no turnaround specialists to work the books and balance sheets on businesses like these. he served on a dozen boards and half he was CEO of.
Chase Manhattan bank asked him to step into Western Digital, that happened to go chapter 11.Even if you turn around a penny profit you look great against multiple shares, and along with the territory, it’s easy to get arrogant. You can only win; you’re already up against a falling company. Of course today it’s a fortune 500 company. Now all during this time since an early age he developed a love for the Bible.
He was married 37 years and lived in 25 homes after the naval academy but in all of that he never lost a passion for his hobby, and what he did because he loved it. During his executive years he started teaching bible studies at Calvary Chapel Costa Mesa for over 20 years. He took his executive job very seriously, but he Bible study he did not take seriously, he did that because he loved it! HE had No Idea that God had other plans. Well he formed his own company and became even more arrogant, and called it the phoenix group International, not realizing the bird consumed itself totally every 500 years, not to come back! Long story longer he made a $ 200 million dollar deal with the Russians, that started to cave, and he used his own money, in layman’s terms, he basically lost it all. As he is fond of saying
“There are very few mistakes I’ve missed I’m pretty sure I got them all”
But that is the way that type of profession is, the average millionaire loses and regains on average 2 ½ times his money. But during those years he was totally consumed by it all.
Anyway, just credit things and let people know when you're copying/pasting an article. They deserve to know that they're not being talked to, but rather being pasted at. It's just polite.
Whoa,,I need a medication refill.
Good thing I happened to stop back here..
Yes because, I don't want it to be sudden, as in, I want to live a full life and so on.
And No because, death will take us all eventually.
"We are confident, I say, and would prefer to be away from the body and at home with the Lord."
-2 Corinthians 5:8 New International Version
I think that if I'll die, no matter when, how or why, I was destined to die that way, that death is a beginning of new life, and let's face it, we're all gonna die sooner or later.
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