@cassie-1-2-3 Harry Potter does have a Theme Park. I think you're thinking about an amusement park. Six Flags is an amusement park. The Super Hero section of Six Flags is as theme park (I'm thinking about Six Flags New England but I'm guessing most are the same). The Marvel section (the section that everyone goes to with Superman, Batman, Hulk, all that jazz) has a Marvel THEME (park). The section with the water rides (which you have to buy another friggin ticket for...) has a water THEME making it a THEME park. The Harry Potter section of Universal Studios has a Harry Potter theme which is why it's a theme park.

The HP park is pretty huge, either way. It's like the size of a water park or small amusement park.

No, a theme park is an amusement park with a theme. It's not a section within an amusement park.
Disney Land is a theme park (the theme being Disney)
It's A Small World, is not a seperate theme park, it's a section within Disney.
If there was a Harry Potter amusement park, it would be a theme park, but since it does not exist, there is no Harry Potter theme park.

There is, however, a themed section within an amusement park.

twilite sold more books on amazon AND also won many teen choice awards!!!

@cassie-1-2-3 Okay, I see where you're coming from now. WWoHP is pretty big, anyway so don't be surprised if people mistake it for a theme park.

@gaycheese Obvious troll is obvious

I used to like twilight I liked the romance and how devoted Edward was to bella But it irked me he never said why its just I love you because I love you. Thats not how real love works. I alomst found him possesive but I still loved him Harry potter is about friendship look how loyal Ron and hermoinie are to Harry twilight is about love fake love but still love Honesly I loved twlight when I was 12 but I feel like I out grew it. And one more thing kids read HP Teens read HP old ladies read HP who reads Twlight? Teenage girls what want bfs but maybe not thats just what I think however I like Alice and I like how they put aside they'ere differances to protect bella Thats Edward showing his love he could be killed but he still goes in to battle thats love just like in Harry potter how Lilly died for her son he would have died for Bella thats why I liked twilight.

All of you who hate Twilight , please , shut up! We realy don't care how much you hate it. I used to love HP but i was so adiccted to it that I had to go to the psychiatrist , and because of that i don't hate it , I just don't read it anymore. I realy don't understand why you hate it so much.
Reason 6489326489343782: HP makes people hate. Twilight doesn't

^ That reason makes no sense sorry...

That's a correlation that seems true on the internet, but I don't think Harry Potter is a factor.

Really, I don't ever see Those who identify as a Harry Potter fan behave the way you see a fair amount behave off of the internet.
I'm pretty sure it's the internet that brings out the hatred in people, not Harry Potter.
And of course, since Harry Potter is so high up there on the cyber hierarchy, liking it just gives people another reason to be full of themselves.

Just my theory.

@BBlondey Not everyone here is hating on Twilight, some of us just came here to defend HP. And a book can't make a person hate something, the person chooses to hate the object/person in question.

Honestly People are Just as bad about hating on twilight as on HP you shouldn't come here to list all the reasons twlight sucks this form is aboy Twlight not hp however people who are coming here just to defend HP are fine as long as your not insulting twlight or the actors saying the twlight actors are ugly is just plain rude Emma Watson said she loves twlight Dan and Robert are good friends Cant the fans get along as well as the actors?

Both groups shut up and read better books like Lord of the Rings, or Chronicles of Amber, both books are better than crap twilight is. HP is so-so in my list. Lord of the Rings rulez forever. And it has friendship and love. So Thumbs Up.

And before you hate I read them all and watched all the films.

lordcorvin: And it has friendship and love.

So does almost every single book ever written.

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It is true so why argue?

Now excuse me while I go and kick ass in World of Tanks

150 reasons Why Harry Potter is better than Twilight:
1) It has more of a plot
2) It has side branches
3) Thier characters have emotions
4) The actors are hot (and ps, HP had R-Pattz first! (Cedric Diggory))
5) The actors are talented
6) It makes sense
7) HP had the Blacks(Sirius, b the way can ride a motorcycle and turn into a dog, too) first(HP-1997 Twilight-2005)
8) And the Clearwaters
9) Harry Potter's vampires don't sprakle. Sparkling boys are gay, not sexy
10) Harry Poter was planned out for 15 years, Twilight was based off of Stephine Meyer's wet dream
11) HP's gingers are better, and hotter
12)Harry becaume distant when no one believed Voldemort was back, Bella jumped off a cliff after waking up from her coma when Edward left her.
13) Harry Potter is in a magical place in another place that actually exists. Twilight is in Forks, a normal place where it rains lot. Where's the creativity there?
14) J.K. Rowling isnt afraid to kill off good guys
15)JK researches her material, has good use of Latin and history within her books. Spells are named after Latin words and do what the Latin words do. Names of soem characters give hints as to what that character is such as Sirius which means Dog Star for more Albus which means White (pure wizard)
16)You can relate Harry Potter to WWII because of similarities you could learn some history from the books.
17) reason 16 being said some characters are loosly based off real life people (Dumbledore=Winston Churchill and Voldemort=Hitler Death eaters=Nazi's)
18)Harry Potter teaches a good deal about prejudice and slavery with the use of different imaginative creatures (Which also required research to create)
19). JK wrote a whole imaginative world that goes further then her 7 books. She thought about more then writing a story but created a whole world with information that never actually made it into the books. Similar to JRR Tolkien
20)Twilight WILL fad out it is a fad and many fans are on it because of the Bandwagon effect and because Robert Patterson is good looking But Harry Potter will be around forever
21) Thw riting is just plain out, obviously better
22)Twilight is too predictable and thrown clumsily together. Harry potter is not predictable and JK Rowling ties all knots and answers all questions.
23)The female characters are strong and intelligent. Hermione doesn't NEED a boyfriend to be a strong good role model for girls everywhere
24)Harry Potter can be read by any age group. Twilight is geared more towards angst 15 year olds.
25)The characters in Harry Potter GROW, they grow with you as you read. The first books start out fairly tame but mature as you mature. I had the pleasure of growing with Harry I was 11 when it was released 19 or 20 when it was finished.
26)The characters in Harry Potter GROW, they grow with you as you read. The first books start out fairly tame but mature as you mature. I had the pleasure of growing with Harry I was 11 when it was released 19 or 20 when it was finished.
27)Even Rob Pattison says he hates Edward Cullen and played him like a manic-depressive.
28)The main characters in Harry Potter have flaws.
29)The characters are not entirely evil or entirely good
30)There are clues put in the first books that will eventually have a great significance later on. (ex: in SS, harry talked to a snake at the zoo. we always thought it was just part of being a wizard, but it reveals itself to be parseltongue which was very useful for harry later on, an the snake became Voldemorts pet, Nagini)
31) The villains are villains for a reason. They're not just bad without explanation. J K Rowling explained Voldemort and other Deat Eaters and showed why they went bad.
32)These books initiate young people to read. I've heard of many people who didn't like reading before, but thanks to hp, they now read a lot.
33)The characters are lovable not because they are hot, or cool, but because of their personalities.
34)JKR has made the plot and characters so deep that when something significant happens, emotions can really be felt. Like Dobby's or Fred's death or when Harry was walking to the forest, understanding that he must die.
35)It's not just one genre, like Twilight. It has humour, adventure, action, romance, fantasy, there's even an adolescent or coming-of-age element. The multiple genres add to the story significantly by being so diverse. With Twilight, I never got that feeling when reading it.
36)JKR's Protagonist is not so overtly simple that a monkey could relate to him and put themselves in their position. Meyer's protagonist is, which is probably why so many of her, often illiterate sounding (see some of their comments on other fan pages) fans, fall in love with the character. They are easily able to relate that character to themselves and picture what their life would be like if they had a hot guy like Edward "in love" with them
37). Stephan King (or any other distinguished author for that matter) has yet to tell JK Rowling that she "can't write"("The real difference is that Jo Rowling is a terrific writer and Stephenie Meyer can't write worth a damn, she's not very good")
38) JKR doesn't repeat herself 500 times, using the same comparison EVERY SINGLE TIME. We get it Edward is hard and cold like granite; you don't need to use that analogy every time his name is mentioned.
39)you can see the characters in HP fall in love and watch as their feelings for each other grow. In Twilight Bella falls "unconditionally and irrevocably in love" with Edward in just a few weeks, without knowing anything at all about him, other than he's a hot vampire (thats like granite of course *rolls eyes*) if 2 people really were to fell "in love" that fast they would probably fall out of love even faster.
40)Harry Potter is a plot based story (plot based stories are USUALLY not thought highly of in the literary world) that is able to use the events in its plot to prove a point about the real world (for those who have issues understanding metaphors and symbolism, her point is that racism= bad) the closest the twilight series comes to social commentary like this is that it supports abstinence and is against abortion, even when it will help save the life of the woman that is pregnant. Both of which are mentioned, sort of as an after thought, throughout the series. Anyway, is this really a good message? studies show that sex ed is more effective at preventing teen pregnancy and STDS if it stresses both abstinence and protection. And to prevent women from getting abortions when having the baby would kill them, is basically trading one human being's life, for a clump of cells that, most likely, if the complications are so vast that the mother will probably die in birth, would probably be stillborn or have serious medical issues.
41)Characters in HP don't suddenly change species in order to hastily tie up loose ends that the author was to lazy to pull together satisfactorily. i.e. "oh its ok hes not REALLY a werewolf, hes a shape-shifter! did i mention that i love Edward and that he's hard and cold like granite?"
42) Harry Potter has shape-shifters too! even before Twilight! They are called ANIMAGI
43) A seer, Proffesor Trelawney
44) OH! And, OMG! look! a WEREWOLF, too!
45)HP does not cause its fans to cry because they will never have a life as good as the main character's.... twilight on the author hand can bring about some scarily unhealthy behavior.... amongst its fans...
46)Meyer's books sound like she used a thesaurus to look up every other word (in order to replace them with BIG, impressive sounding words), as a poor attempt to hide her even poorer writing style.
47)I can't feel my IQ plummeting as a read Harry Potter... twilight however is another story (HA literary pun!!!!)
48)The depth of Snape's character is truly astonishing and touching, you can feel the grief he must have for the loss of Lily, and the confusion he must have over his feelings for Harry. he hates Harry because of his resemblance to James, but loves and cares for him b/c of his love for Lily and harry's small resemblance to her in his eyes and personality. JKR is able to master these emotions and convey them to her readers with amazing skill. The idea of twilight gives Meyer the opportunity to do the same thing with the complexity of the feelings that edward has for Bella, loving her but having to resist the urge to kill her when it causes him intense pain and then forcing himself to leave her in order to protect her, but Meyer is unable to convey these feelings in a skillful way due to her terribly simplistic writing style and her inability to convey complex human emotions in her seemingly simplistic characters.
49)(continuing on 48 but with a new point) Also, Edward's feelings and struggles are far less original than Snape's. the whole "I'm leaving you because i love you" thing has been used countless times and the "i love you but have to resist you" thing has obviously been used before, this even being acknowledged in the book: "and so the lion fell in love with the lamb". Therefore, even if Meyer had been able to write the books in a skillful way the story line, and characters are so unoriginal that they are practically cliche
50)Harry Potter is not based off of a dream the author had. "It does not do to dwell on dreams and forget to live." -Albus Dumbledore.
51)Harry Potter has an overarching theme. Twilight doesn't (Romance and the fact that its a love story doesn't count, thats a genre, not a theme)
52)the ending in Harry Potter is not handed to the reader on a silver platter at the start of the book. The plot line was unpredictable, but not to an extent where it contradicts everything that was previously stated.
53)JKR thinks to do writing exercises to help her deepen her characters BEFORE she writes the books (she spent 15 years planning them out). Unlike Smeyer who randomly decides to write Midnight Sun in order to deepen Edward's character AFTER shes already stuck a label on him that says hes a perfect "Gary Sue", i mean really how deep can someone whos "perfect" deep
54)JKR does not define the perfect man as over-protective, abusive, stalker-like, and over-bearing
55)JKR sticks to the rules and boundaries that she sets in her fantasy. For example "no magic can truly bring a person back from the dead" (the stone in the last book doesn't count because they weren't really back in the same essence that they were before) Who wants to bet if HP was written by Smeyer that she would've made Harry's parents come back by the middle of the first book?
56)HP quotes are so much less cheesey than twilight quotes "If I could dream at all, it would be about you. And I’m not ashamed of it." - Edward Cullen vs. "to the well organized mind, death is but the next great adventure" - Albus Dumbledore
57)In the movies: A great cast of awsome british actors
58)this Twilight fan said this -> "wel befor i read twilight i neva red anything befor and its the best book eva so i think i noe wot im talking about"...... WHAT?!
59)Twilight has a massive anti-base and there are many, many people who don't like the book. Not so with Harry Potter. There are very few people who hate it. And the HP antis are mainly those saying it's again Christianity and barely have any valid arguments.
60)It can be read by a massive audience. Twilight is really only enjoyed by teenage girls who will eventually realise how bad a book Twilight is when they grow up. Children to adults read Harry Potter. Not only with age, but people who are different and like different genres read it (and enjoy it). Mainly because it has so many genres within it.
61)It's been credited, awarded and acclaimed a lot more than Twilight. And these are by people whose jobs are to critique books.
62)The characters change with their ages, did you notice that Bella was in school a year or two longer than she was supposed to be?
63)Harry Potter has been around for over 10 years, and it still has a huge fan base. Twilight's been around for 5 or so years, and there are as many haters as there are fans.
64)You can read a Harry Potter multiple times and find it just as amazing as the last, when you read Harry Potter you actually feel like you are in the book along with the characters. While i cannot say the same for Twilight
65)I don't care if Bella ate a Granola Bar for breakfast and I don't care about reading about how good-looking Edward is for the hundredth time. It just gets boring.
66) (This one pertains to another series, not Harry Potter) The Hunger Games is told in the same person, and if you take away the love triange, you have a story of a telivised fight to the death in an arena, thake the loe triangle out of Twilight, you get a story about a girl that moves to a town where it rains alot
67)i'm getting really tired of the whole "Harry Potters to hard to read and understand" argument that twilight fans put up, the Harry potter books are on a 5-6th grade reading level. If you're above 5th or 6th grade and you find Harry Potter to be a difficult read, chances are you're just stupid.
68)Little things turn out to be very important! i.e. the locket in OOTP , the bug in Hermione’s hair in GOF, secret keepers, and loads more!
69)You want to read more because it is a great book, not for the “hot” guys and kissing as said by some twilight fan on the twilight msn superfan page.
70)The Harry Potter characters do not try to kill themselves because they cannot be with who they want, they die bacause Death Eaters kill them, or of natural causes. An example of an in depht murder plot by aDeath Eater is in OOTP when Bodrick Bode bwcame crazy, then was taken to St. Mungo's, and a Death Eater sent him a plant, which turned out to be a Devil's Snare, which choked him to death.
71)Because Harry Potter doesn’t ruin your favourite bands. L lol personal experience: (au revoir Paramore I can never see you the same anymore)
72)Harry Potter is not cliché
73)The characters do not have a hundred year difference lol(Exept for Dumbledore, but the person who wants to be with him is like, 100 years old, too)
74)The characters won’t go on living forever on the face of this earth
75)Because Harry Potter has put up a bar which is higher than the sky lol and I don’t think anything can beat that especially Twilight
76). In Harry Potter you learn that some of the good people die, in twilight you learn that if you can’t be with him/her you should kill yourself WTF.
77)we watch Harry Potter movies because we love the characters and because we want o see if the movie is living upto the book. you watch twilight for the guys * rolls eyes pathetic really. *
78)The harry potter books are so complex, original, so well thought out and intelligently written, it's obvious they were written by a complete genius. A monkey could easily have written a story like twilight.
79) How many good guys died in Twilight that didn't become Vampires?
80. The characters aren't perfect. Bella is boring and whiny. Edward is a 104 year old virgin who hasn't even had a girlfriend before... I'm sorry but that just doesn't happen. Harry has flaws. He is a rule breaker and has emotional breakdowns. Hermione is extremely intelligent but at the same time, bossy and annoying. Ron walked out on Harry in the last book- that doesn't make him perfect at all.

81. The world! There's Quidditch, wizard bands, shops, a whole ministry! Sweets, villages, transport ways, clocks, pictures and oh so many things! What do the so-called-vampires have in Twilight? Nothing!

82. The names... Don't get me STARTED on the names. Lord Voldemort even sounds evil... James definitely doesn't sound evil. Dumbledore sounds good. Edward- Jacob? Plain names! Draco Malfoy is the bad boy of the school and his name sounds royal- like he believes he is- as well as someone who might be snobby. I really doubt that LAUREN sounds snobby to anyone who listens to her name alone.

83. Creatures. Elves, giants, centaurs, unicorns, Dementors, REAL VAMPIRES AND WEREWOLVES and Hipogriffs. I mean, come on... what more could you want?

84. Twilight only revolves around ONE thing and that is EDWARD. What the hell but four extremely long, boring books shouldn't all be about the hotness of a sparkling vampire. Harry Potter has much more: suspense, comedy, drama and... romance!

85. The characters are easier to relate to. All Bella cares about is having a boyfriend. There are more problems in life than having a boyfriend.

86. Hogwarts! I have a hard time dealing with the fact that Hogwarts isn't real. I mean, how the hell can JK Rowling come up with all that stuff in her mind? Moving staircases, dungeons, moving potraits and enchanted ceilings! Wow... but the school Twilight has is... Forks High School. Boring much?

87. Battles. I mean, if in the end there is supposed to be a battle, it should happen. Twilight was like... ugh. Imagine Darth Vader and Luke Skywalker talking their problems out. WTF? NO! Imagine Voldemort and Harry talking their problems out. WTF?! No!! There is supposed to be a battle and Breaking Dawn didn't have one.

88. JK Rowling cared about her characters and got us liking them only to kill some of the good ones in the end. That caused a deep emotion to rise inside us but we LOVED it! Fred died, Dobby died, Hedwig died... I was SAD but it made the book better! If there is a battle, people SHOULD die... and not just the bad guys!

89. No cheesy lines in Harry Potter such as, "The lion fell in love with the lamb." I am sorry but I'm surprised Bella didn't start laughing her head off when Edward said that to her! And people call it a MODERN love story. Pfft...

90. Harry Potter teaches us lessons. Sacrifices are important sometimes. Good triumphs over evil. Never give up. Death is just another journey and shouldn't be feared! What does Twilight teach us? Kill yourself if you lose your boyfriend or girlfriend...

91. Fans! Harry Potter has been around for 10 years now and almost every person has heard of him. Twilight will fade- Harry Potter will live on.

92. The writing style is obviously better. Stephenie Meyer writes in flowery prose that makes people want to puke.

93. The difference in the people reading the books. Twilight is centered around the age group og 13 year old GIRLS to 18 year old GIRLS. No guys hardly EVER read Twilight... why? Because its all about love and how hot the guys are! I mean, why would STRAIGHT guys want to read about that? Harry Potter has fans from all age groups from six year olds to God knows 60 year olds! There's action so you see a lot of guys reading the books too.
94. The imagination and creativity is brilliant. The spells and so many of them are very difficult to think of and JK Rowling NAILED it!

95. Cedric Diggory. The guy played by the same guy who plays Edward Cullen: Robert Pattinson. Cedric was a very brave, honest and charming young man and he died. Robert made a very nice dead guy in Harry Potter. In Twilight, he looks constipated most of the time and even he said that he hates this Edward Cullen guy. Heck, he even said he was Team Jacob once!

96. This is also sort of related to the previous reason but different. Robert Pattinson was just as 'handsome' back in Goblet of Fire. People only like him because of his character in Twilight and how perfect he is (by playing the character otherwise no one called him perfect before.) That hardly counts as fair! Daniel Radcliffe and the rest are known for their acting and their characters- not because of their looks.

97. Again with the characters! Bella was dead when Edward left her. That ruins all the things women have done to show that they are independent and strong! Hermione is fierce, intelligent and confident without a boyfriend... she is a much better idol.

98. Twilight is sexist. Bella always counts on Edward- Edward will do this, Edward will do that. That ruins everything women have said about them being equal to men.

99. Come on! Sparkling vampires? Are you KIDDING? Vampires used to turn to dust in the sun. They used to sleep in coffins and drink human blood. Vegetarian vampires? Beautiful vampires who say stuff like, "Take care of my heart. I've left it with you." Is that supposed to be a JOKE? NOT FUNNY, MEYER! Vampires used to be cool!

100. The author backgrounds and the pressure upon them. Meyer dreamt about Edward and Bella. Poof... she decides to write about them! WHAT?! JK Rowling was a struggling woman whose talent was writing. She wrote a book and now LOOK at her! Much more impressive.

101. The flaws in the plan. If Edward's body is unable to change, how the hell did he manage to get Bella pregnant? Harry Potter has no flaws like this- NONE!

102. The problems face by the characters. Harry has been TORTURED by his aunt and uncle for 10 years! They hardly gave him anything to eat, never bought him new clothes and completely ignored what he had to say. He has to deal with the fact that Lord Voldemort is somewhere out there, ready to kill him with a huge number of followers... one of them may even be his Potions teacher... Bella's problems: she's moving to Forks. She's not pretty enough for Edward. Sparkling vampires want to hunt her down and kill her but she knows nothing will happen because she has 7 vampires protecting her. Those aren't problems...

103. Again with the characters. Snape is awesome and you get to hate him. How many people expected him to turn out to be the GOOD guy even AFTER he killed Dumbledore? How many people expected Dumbledore's past to be oh-not-so-perfect compared to the wizard he became LATER? How many people expected HARRY to be a Horcrux?

104. The two guys who save Bella's life are Jacob and Edward. Seriously, it gets boring when it happens a thousand times. Harry is saved by Dumbledore, Snape, Ron, Hermione, Cedric and so many more! Plus, he saves them too from terrible fates.

105. The plot is NOT predictable. From the first book to the last book, everyone wondered whether Harry was going to die. Bella was perfect and Edward wasn't going to let her die. Edward was practically invincible so HE couldn't die. And Jacob- well, Bella really didn't care much about him after all, did she, when she tried to kill him herself...
106. The fans. The Twilight fans are extremely hyper and have stupid things to say, involving only two arguments: Edward is hot and its a love story. Pfft. Harry Potter fans know how to spell and learn something from the books, making them more intelligent than chipmunks who read Twilight. (That last line was by me...) They tend to attack anyone who has even THOUGHT about saying something bad about Twilight which I hardly think is fair...

107. Ha! Sexiness isn't a justification for Harry Potter's existence. If you ask many Twilight fans why they like Twilight, they tend to say that the characters and actors are sexy. We're talking about the books here and shouldn't judge them on the sexiness of the characters... judge them on the personalities for God's sake!

108. JK Rowling does not ruin mythology. Vampires are vampires and werewolves are werewolves unlike in Twilight, the vampires are something like sparkly fairies and the werewolves are shape-shifter. What the hell?

109. The movies were better. (I will put some more detail in some more reasons of my own...) We can prove that by examining what the official critics have to say. According to RottenTomatoes, Sorcerer's Stone- 78%, Chamber of Secrets- 82%, Prisoner of Azkaban- 89%, Goblet of Fire- 89%, Order of the Phoenix- 77% while Twilight got a 43%. Hmm...

110. Ha! This one is awesome:
AVADA KEDAVRA! It is so cool... the Killing Curse that kills people in two seconds! I bet if you put Harry Potter and Edward Cullen in a fight, this is how it will go...
Edward: You cannot come NEAR Bella. I will kill you before you even think about it.
Harry: *Rolls his eyes* AVADA KEDAVRA!
Edward: *Dies*
Bella: *Screams and thinks about ways to kill herself.*
LOL! :)

111. Time to write the book. JK Rowling took YEARS to write the first Harry Potter book alone and it shows in the prose and the ideas and her imagination... It took Meyer only a few months and THAT shows too. -_-

112. Editors. JK Rowling has them and they make sure the book is even awesome-er before it gets published while Meyer doesn't have them... even if she does, not good ones! Bella shouldn't be making pancakes for Charlie in one paragraph and he shouldn't be eating out of a cereal bowl in the next. Again -_-

113. Harry Potter has tiny details that turn out to be so important later. They seem really insignificant in the beginning but they always turn out to have a bigger meaning. For example, the locket of Regulus Black is mentioned in Order of the Phoenix. I bet half the people read on, not caring about who the hell R.A.B was. Then, it turns out if Harry doesn't find out who R.A.B was and where the freaking locket is now... Voldemort will never be defeated. Awesome much? Keeps you wondering... And in the first book, on the chocolate card, it said Dumbledore was famour for defeating Grindelwald. Who Grindelwald was, you didn't find out till the 7th book! And you had forgotten about him until then. When his name comes up in the final book, you're like: Wait, I've heard that name before. Where? Where? Where?! Am I right?
In Twilight, all the two ever do is say cheesy stuff to each other. I swear, if Meyer had missed out some of those lines, the book would have been like 50 pages long!!! Then, in the second one, Bella keeps describing the hole in her chest. WE ALREADY KNOW YOU'VE GONE EMO, SO SHUT THE FUCK UP ABOUT IT ALREADY!!!

114. Romance in Harry Potter is not perfect. Bella and Edward get in teeny wheeny fights and then Bella takes in his hotness and makes up with him. What the hell? In the sixth book, Hermione and Ron have so many fights- they try to make each other jealous too! Ginny and Harry: Ginny had a boyfriend before Harry. Harry kissed Cho before Ginny! Its normal teenage stuff...!!!

115. Yes.... Harry Potter has shades of gray while Twilight is black and white. Explaining: Harry Potter has characters that have both a bad side and a good side! Then there are people you thought were good who turned out to be bad and the people you thought were bad who turned out to be GOOD! Those are twists and they add color to the story (in this case, more shades.) Twilight has the good vampires and the bad vampires- not very interesting...

116. Supporting characters. Okay, I'm giving examples in this so its gonna be a bit long.
Twilight:
Mike: Supporting character who is only mentioned when he is asking Bella out on a date or something.
Jessica: Only mentioned when Bella is criticising her of gossiping too much.
Angela: Only mentioned when Bella is appreciating why she is quiet and lets people have their space but understands them too.
Heck, Esme: Only mentioned whenever something bad happens!
Tyler: HE ALMOST FLATTENED BELLA WITH HIS FUCKING VAN AND HE WAS HARDLY MENTIONED AFTER THAT CHAPTER!
I mean, don't make extra characters if you aren't going to use them.

Harry Potter:
Draco Malfoy: (Just 'cause I love him) He's mentioned all the time and believe it or not, people START to like him no matter how much of a jerk he is in the book- because he is mentioned so much that like, he is one of the main characters. In Book 6, he IS one of the main characters and you feel sorry for him by the end. Why? Because he is a GOOD supporting character.
Neville Longbottom: A complete IDIOT who has no clue about anything BUT Herbology. Then, why do we like him? Because the main characters do and he is likeable. Why? Because he is mentioned so much that he becomes a huge part of the book!

117. Harry Potter signifies love. Voldemort was unable to kill Harry because of his mother's sacrifice and love for him. That makes sense because Voldemort was so evil that he could not take the force of something so good. LOVE is a big factor in the whole Potter series. Seriously, people call Twilight LOVE stories... they think its cute when a dude sneaks in a chick's room to watch her sleep? That is stalking and its creepy, not romantic...

118. The friendship. Bella is only friends with Jacob and she doesn't give a shit about any of her other so-called-friends in her school. Harry is ready to SACRIFICE himself for the whole of the WORLD! That includes his best friends' families and even the Dursleys!!! Its about unity and how friends should stick by each other and not dump each other for a girl or boy. Which Bella and Edward do... all the time. The only character I like in the Twilight series is Jacob- why? Because he was the only person who was GENUINELY nice to Bella and actually made her smile because of his personality and not his hotness and she dumped him... completely. That... sucked. A major factor in why I hate Twilight.

119. Ha! This one is brilliant. The Death Eaters are WAY more awesome than the Volturi. All the Volturi do is sit down on their thrones and wait for some news to reach their ears so they can roll their eyes and send guards to kill them if they want to. If they think its serious enough, they go, talk it out and come back! The Death Eaters kill people!!! That makes them EVIL... something to be scared of! And yes, I really think there should be a Volturi-Death-Eater match and I BET that the Death Eaters will win hands down.

120. Bella completely DIES when Edward LEAVES her. What the...??? THat doesn't happen- not anymore! And not when you've been together for like a few months... I can understand if they've been together for a decade or something. Harry sees his godfather getting killed in front of his eyes. He has no parents. He gets mocked on in the fourth book... does he go emo? NO! He sulks for a while and then, what? He gets on with his life because he knows he has to!

121. Yes, Voldemort is awesome! The best villian EVER! He looks evil, he sounds evil and he IS evil. He kills Snape for a fucking wand! He will kill anyone who gets in his way. And he is so evil that people are afraid to say his name. James. Victoria. Laurent. What the hell? Sucky names with no villian looks on them- just other vampires described to be beautiful as hell. I mean, seriously, doesn't this prove Meyer looks for looks only in a character?!
122. Bella and Ginny: Bella is whiny, girly, unable to stick up for herself and completely dependent on Edward. She thinks that all the guys are mad about her but she also thinks she's plain which makes me think that she has a split personality. Ginny is confident and brave. She looks out for Harry and she doesn't try to commit suicide when he leaves her in the sixth book. Enough said.

123. Harry and Edward: Edward is a sissy, gay vampire who only cares about Bella and no one else. He's stayed with Carlisle for 104 years and he is ready to throw him away for someone who he has only been in his life for a few months. He is shallow, over-protective and a stalker. Harry is brave and he lets Ginny go because he knows that he might even get murdered by Voldemort. He is prepared to sacrifice himself for everyone and not just Ginny. He is NOT overprotective- the way he lets Ginny fight in the Order of the Phoenix proves that. That just shows he is secure about her and trusts her unlike Edward.

124. Ron and Jacob: Jacob is in fact the only character I like in Twilight. And the only one I feel sorry for. But Jacob is insensitive and a bit immature. He wants Bella, Bella and Bella. He is ready to ditch his friends for her- that happens in Breaking Dawn and New Moon if no one remembers. Ron on the other hand sticks with Harry until the end. I admit he walks out on the him a couple of times but he returns, cursing himself for being so stupid. Personally, that makes him much better than Jacob.

125. Mrs. Weasley and Esme: Esme is described to be motherly. She is described to be very loving but surprisingly, she only speaks twice in every book. Mrs Weasley is practically a second MOTHER to Harry. She supports him and wants the best for him always. I'll say... better than Esme.

126. Hermione and Alice: Alice ditched her family! THat's all I have to say! FOR JASPER, SHE DITCHED HER WHOLE FAMILY! I'm sorry but how is that right? Hermione stayed with Harry until the end. She NEVER walked out on him. Not when he was accused of putting his own name in the Goblet of Fire. Not when she was risking her own life on the journey to look for the Horcruxes. That's friendship...

127. This is my favorite. Every story that revolves around a SCHOOL setting has a bitch in it. Lauren is the bitch in Twilight but just not the good one. DRACO MALFOY is the bitch in Harry Potter WITH FOLLOWERS on either side of him and he is EVIL. AND HE IS AWESOME. What does Lauren do? Roll her eyes and make faces at Bella? What the hell? What does Draco do? Torture Harry about his parents- make fun of Ron's condition and constantly pick on Hermione for being a Mudblood.

128. Voldemort and James or Victoria or ANY stupid villian in Twilight: James lured Bella into a trap and then fucking made a video of her. DIdn't he have enough brains to just KNOW that Edward will be coming? Voldemort, in the first one, COMMANDED Quirrel again and again to kill Harry even though he couldn't lay his hands on him. Just shows how desperate he is to get him killed. Victoria was actually scared! She spent six months and more trying to get to Bella and then when she DID get close enough to her, she danced and poof, she's dead. WHAT?! Harry and Voldemort DUELLED in the fourth book. Voldemort shouted Avada Kedavra, determined to kill Harry but something happened. At least SOMETHING happened!

129: Volturi and the Death Eaters: The Death Eaters get things done unlike the Volturi. That's all I have to say...
130. Movie effects. Seriously, when I watched Twilight and the part where Edward walks out into the sunlight, I had to rewind it four times to just take in that he was sparkling. It looked nothing like it! I agree that the first two Potter movies had pretty stupid effects but then, they were YEARS back, before all the advanced technology. Goblet of Fire had an AWESOME dragon. Then the spells and the sparks coming from the wands are almost believable. I mean, the effects makes it impossible NOT to believe in the movies...

131. The movies again. Have you seen the quality of the Twilight movie? It had practically NO colour in it and that made me sleepy. Harry Potter keeps you ineterested, on the edge of your seat, begging for more.

132. The history of the characters. Every character in Harry Potter has a history. There was some history in Twilight about the Quileute legends and all but that's about it. And it wasn't written very well. Harry Potter characters have history and darn interesting ones too!

133. JK Rowling EXPLAINS everything. Why Snape hated Harry but saved his life whenever he was in trouble. Why Ludo Bagman kept helping Harry. Why Draco turned out to be so insecure... It isn't like that in Twilight. Some things are explained and somethings are not. Connect the pieces, please... it makes a story better.

134. JK Rowling doesn't throw her characters away. She makes sure that they have a role even AFTER the problem is solved. For example, after Bella got married to Edward, Jessica, Angela, Mike and everyone else from her school just disappeared! Meyer threw them away without even explaining what happened to them. JK Rowling made sure that she explained what was going on with the characters. Neville became a teacher at Hogwarts. Draco Malfoy and Harry didn't loathe each other as much... every character has their own little worlds that are described, briefly, by JK Rowling.

(The actors in the movies)

135. Daniel Radcliffe (Harry) vs. Pattinson (Edward): One thing to say, PATTINSON COULDN'T ACT IN TWILIGHT. Why? Because he didn't like his character! If you don't LIKE the character and can't relate to him, how the hell are you supposed to play him? I bet Daniel loved all the books and liked Harry's character- that is why he acted so well. I can't even imagine anyone else being Harry now...

136. Emma Watson (Hermione) vs. Kristen Stewart (Bella): No matter what people say, KStew can't act one bit. She shows NO emotion at all and she blinks so much. SHe stutters and seriously, she sounds a bit retarded. Emma can act... the way her eyebrows move show emotion and her British accent is just brilliant. Who doesn't like that?

137. Taylor Lautner (Jacob) vs Rupert Grint (Ron): Taylor is hot, I admit that. but that doesn't mean he can act. He's not a very bad actor but no comparison with Rupert. Rupert's expressions are just brilliant and no actor has made me laugh harder than he does.
138. No versus in here... just Tom Felton (Draco Malfoy): The glares, smirks and sulking is awesome. He couldn't be played by anyone else. I was looking forward to who would play Lauren and whether she would be able to nail it. Guess what... there was no Lauren in the movie. -_-

139. The jokes in the book. Examples...
Twilight
Jacob: Does my being half-naked bother you?
Bella: *blushes*
WTF?!

Harry Potter:
Mrs Weasley: Fred, you next.
Twin 1: He's not Fred, I AM!
Twin 2: Honestly, woman, you call yourself our mother.
Comparison?!

140. Okay, people may or may not know this. BUT DOES TWILIGHT HAVE A THEME PARK BASED ON IT? Yes! There is a theme park being made which is based on Harry Potter alone! CAN YOU SAY AWESOME MUCH?!
136. Emma Watson (Hermione) vs. Kristen Stewart (Bella): No matter what people say, Kristin Stewart can't act one bit. She shows NO emotion at all and she blinks so much. She stutters and seriously, she sounds a bit retarded. Emma can act... the way her eyebrows move show emotion and her British accent is just brilliant. Who doesn't like that?

The Answer to that is: (to why Kristin stutters alot) Shes a pot-head. No lie, she is! i can tell. no wonder her voice is so deep and in the new moon trailer (Yes i actually was THAT bored to go and watch it...) she sounds like a guy at one point when she says: "No..please no!" or something like that.


Of course Harry Potter is BETTER than Twilight, you have to be on something if you thought twilight was better. i still have the first 2 books (i couldn't even finish reading the 2nd one. just hearing Bella talking about how 'perfect' Edward is a thousand times he comes up is almost enough to make me go psychotic..im really surprised i haven't yet) HELL im even wondering why i didn't BURN,cut up the pages, or Thrown out those books yet!

I love Criticizing this book so much,I think it's becoming a hobby :D

I remember after i saw the Harry Potter movie i immediately become a big fan. I wanted almost anything that was harry potter. I remember in GOF i called Rob handsome when he played Cedric, he's not really handsome anymore, plus the pale makeup and contacts don't really compliment him.
141 (This may have already been posted but whatever): JKR created this whole world while Meyer created what a story? A new type of gay vampire who sparkles in the sun? At least the creatures in HP are realistic..

142: The characters are real, they aren't vampires/werewolves (besides Lupin)most of the chracters are teenagers going through real teenage things like friendship, love, school etc. etc. While Bella battles her feelings for a vampire and a werewolve I don't know one teenager who can relate to that.

143: All the characters have depth even the minor ones in HP while in Twilight there are so many characters who just exsit because Meyer needed someone to be in a scene and then they were never mentioned again. In HP every character has a reason for acting the whay they act or doing the things they do, they all have a story.

144:in harry potter, everything has a meaning. and everything connects. things from previous years come into play in the last book. ron and hermoine go into the chamber of secrets, something that hasnt been mentioned since second year. and the horcruxes even have background stories on why theyre horcruxes! anything like that in twilight? i dont think so.

145: harry and you know who are related! who would have seen that coming?! and not just that, but just the whole entire hallows! which, i must say, was a very good title for the book because it pretty much revolves around them. all of the books have, whether we realized it or not.
146. I just felt this deserved a place on its own. Ron and Hermione's kiss was brilliant! The passion in it and it was probably at one of the most unexpected moments ever... right in the middle of a war! I don't see Edward and Bella's one kiss matching that one. Plus, it wasn't all detailed so it didn't really want to make you puke.

147. I completely forgot about the Yule Ball! :) I mean, it is much more amazing than the prom
148. I am sorry if I offend fans with this but I have observed very carefully and that is why I'm writing this reason. I am NOT saying that all Twilight fans are like that and I'm not saying that all Harry Potter fans are smart.
Anways... here's an experience of mine.
Case 1:
Me: I personally think that Harry Potter is much better than Twilight.
Twilight fan: WHAT? U DIDNT JUST SAYYYY THATTT! OKAYYY? I'M GONNAA HUNT U DOWNN N KILL YAA! FU** OFFF, IDIOT!

Case 2:
Me: I personally think Harry Potter OWNS Twilight.
Twilight fan: You're probably just a small baby who whines because your mother or father are dead.
Offending much?

Case 3:
Me: Why do you think Twilight is better than Harry Potter?
Twilight Fan: Coz, like, Edwardz hottt! And so is jacobb. and its a luv storyy and oh yeah, edward is hottt!!

Case 4:
Me: I'm astonished that some people can call Twilight literature.
Twilight fan: OMG! ASTONISHED? WHAT DOES THAT EVEN MEAN?
149.Chapter One:
Breaking Dawn (Engaged): Stupid, stupid, STUPID chapter with nothing in it but people admiring Bella's car and her obsessing over her lost best friend, Jacob, who she personally doesn't give a shit about. She's really upset and then, as every book starts out, she goes all happy and dreamy when she sees Edward. Very predictable and very stupid.
Deathly Hallows (The Dark Lord Ascending): I'm sorry but the chapter's name is just awesome. Just by READING the name, you can tell that the whole chapter is gonna be awesome. Voldemort discussing the plans with the Death Eaters- the Malfoys being extremely uncomfortable about Voldemort being in their mansion. Snape's information for Voldemort... can you say interesting much?
150.The Seven Potters. Its about people coming to rescue Harry and drinking Polyjuice Potion, transforming their physical appearance to Harry's. IT seems like the only people who want to risk their life to save Bella are Edward, Jacob, Edward, Jacob. I don't blame them- Bella is just stuck up and selfish. Harry is modest and so, people are there to protect him, risking their own lives as they do so.

^ There's a forum where you can post those called "1000 reasons why harry potter is better than twilight," link.

@VampiresRevenge I know. I was just stating the fact, and that is the forum that I got these from, too

Why not agree that both books are amazing? Honestly. I mean, I do really admire how the fans are so supportive of both series. That shows that they really love it. I love Twilight, and I'm just starting to read HP. I love it. Both series are immortal. I just want fans to get along , though even the mere thought seems impossible. I know it's stupid and pointless to go on the series' club wall and post hateful comments unless I want to "die a very painful death", but I want this hate to stop. Please. Everything, even these books has flaws. It's a fact of life. Hating on something doesn't ever make it go away. Ever. So stop it already. I don't care however many reasons a person can come up with. I'll love both the fans and the series forever and ever. I'm not starting anything, so please don't hate. I know that both books are different, but I've seen so much hate for both. It shows just how immature people can be, especially on the Internet. I've seen fans get along before. It's happened to me. I have tons of Twilight and HP fans. My 3 main bffs are huge, hardcore HP fans. They're my absolute besties. Emma Watson said she loves Twilight. Dan and Robert are good friends. Fans can be friends, and don't let the series get in the way. But of course, everyone is different. I look forward to seeing more fans of both series on this spot. Twilight and HP FTW!

honestly cullengirl you do not have to curse at harry potter fans like me i respected your opinion but you have gone way too far first of all the twilight movies are only about werewolves fighting vampires and then kissing a lot and bella is a horrible role model example LIke i can think of about 100 reasons why she is not a good role model exs. she practically cheats on both of them in the first movie by kissing edawierd then kissing whats his name even though taylor launtner is a good actor the rest of the cast screws it all up the plot in harry potter is different in every movie with good effects and frankly actually has good role models that are the main characters and different talents and adventure and some surprises not just kissing sessions then werewolf v.s vampire fights over and over again hp actors are very good and i agree with haley and jordarchy and the princesss tale and cullen girl in number 50 it states not sexual when bella gets pregnant right after marriage or before which means she definately had kids before she was married it takes about 9 months for a baby to come out the least the movie couldve done was to say 9 months later doh

gaycheese edward got a raspberry award that is an award that is specifically meant to be given to the worst actors plus twilight is a chick flick and there are more girls in the world so that is why they may have won an award but i do not believe have any good awards except for worlds dumbest movie lol

face of music i also i agree with you

broawesome: edward got a raspberry award that is an award that is specifically meant to be given to the worst actors

Because Edward is an actor...

I can prove all this wrong with three parts.
1. Learn how to spell please.
2. Get grammar skills because riting lik dis maks it confzing to read and hrd to understnd
3. Jacob isn't a werewolf. He can change at will. Therefore he is an animagus.

^ Those three points prove every single thing wrong in this forum? I find that hard to believe, since spelling and grammar honestly have little to do with making a valid point. Even though some people type like idiots, it doesn't mean that their opinion/point is wrong. Also, your #1 and #2 could be combined into just one point, since they are basically saying the same thing. #3 was maybe one of the hundreds of arguments in this forum, so I don't see how proving that one wrong proves all of the others wrong.

Aw, don't be silly.
*An animagus is a wizard who put forth a lot of practice and effort to be able to shift into an animal.
*Jacob, a shape shifter, was born with the ability and it just kicked in randomly.
*A werewolf changes with the moon.

They are three different things. I know people are trying to be funny and clever by saying Jacob is an animagus, but really, it just makes it seem like you have no idea what an animagus and think it's the same as being a shape shifter.

I know what an animagus is. I had about three seconds to post that up because I was in school.

The three real reasons how Twilight completely fails:

They always say Jacob is a werewolf, which he clearly is not. He is obviously a shape shifter, so a lot of Twilight is already wrong.

In Forks it only rains about 1/3 of the time, not 4/3 like Meyers basically says it does.

And finally, because I wanted to stop at three instead of going higher, all my friends who read good stories and long stories couldn't even get past chapter one of Bella complaining.
I have a friend who goes deep into Lord of the Rings for the heck of it and he finds Twilight boring.

^ Your reasons:

1. First you say that Jacob is an animagus, and now you say he is a shape-shifter. But okay, we'll go with shape-shifter. What Jacob and the other wolves were called does not make the whole book a fail. The wolves are shape-shifters that can change into wolves, which she easily just called "werewolves." I don't understand how that ruins a whole series.

2. It is impossible for something to rain 4/3 of the time, but I get that you are just exaggerating. Stephanie never described each and every day in the book for you to clearly know how many times it actually rained.

3. ...So? Your friends being incapable of getting past Bella's "complaining" say more about them than the book. There are obviously millions of people who could read the book, so there must be a problem with them, like not being interested enough in the book to continue reading, rather than the book itself not being interesting.

^There are also a million people who are like her friends and CANT get past Bella's whining. All the complains about twilight come from millions of people so there has to be something a lot of people dont like about it. But then agaiin there are millions of people who like it but I believe that if a certain thing gets a lot of complaints, there has to be something wrong with it...

^ There are also a good bit of people who believe that Harry Potter is the "devil's work." Does that mean that it has any merit to it? It all comes down to personal opinion. There are always going to be a great deal of people on any side of an argument, so it does not mean that one side is true and the other isn't. You can't call something "crap" just because a lot of people hate it, nor can you call it "good" because a lot of people love it. Everyone has to form their own opinion on what is crap to them and what is good to them.

If Wreater123's friends (or anyone else) couldn't get through Twilight, then that just means their interest level for this particular series was not as high as the people who enjoyed the series. It does not mean that there was something wrong with it.

Obviously I was exaggerating, but honestly, why would it just HAPPEN to rain whenever Bella was there? I don't know any place like that except for a couple odd places, none of which are in Washington.

People who believe that Harry Potter is "devils work" are just trying to find reasons. J. K. Rowling wrote almost the entire series on napkins, I doubt she meant for any devilry to happen.

Apparently Twilight was Meyers dream, so that is very creepy. Just saying. And Edward was supposed to be two inches...hmmm...anyways, please tell me something. How can anyone get through a chapter of complaints even though the character gets everything that they want?

And Ariba, thanks, but I am a male. Haha.

The vampires could only go outside when it was cloudy, so of course the story is going to focus on the days when the vampires can actually go outside and do stuff, rather than everyday when it was sunny and they couldn't do anything.

I agree that it is crazy to think that HP is "the devil's work," but I was using it to prove a point: that a bunch of people can view something a certain way, but you don't have to agree with it.

Because you would need to get through the chapter of complaints in order to know whether or not Bella got what she wanted..? You question doesn't really make sense. You wouldn't know that Bella got everything she wanted unless you read the entire series, so getting through one chapter would be no problem.

Actually, it was highly implied that she got whatever she wanted in the first few pages because while she had a nice house and was going to get a car for her birthday, she was complaining that everything was off in the house and she hated the new car. Yeah it's an old and beaten down car, but most people would be...oh, I don't know...GRATEFUL that they would be getting a car.
If I received an ugly car for my birthday, I would just take it into a shop with the money I saved up to make it look nicer instead of complaining about it for every minute of every waking hour.

How does that imply that she got everything she wanted? If she got everything she wanted, don't you think that someone would have said that they would get her a new car right then since she was complaining?

That's what teenagers do; they complain about things. It doesn't make them odd or totally insufferable.

She did not hate her car at all. I have absolutely no idea why people continue to say this. he people who say this are obviously just making things up. She was ENTIRELY grateful for her new car.
Exact quotes:
"Wow. Free."
Then she offers to buy the car herself
'That's really nice, Dad. Thanks. I really appreciate it."
"And I never looked a free truck in the mouth - or engine."
"To my intense surprise, I loved it."
"Wow, Dad, I love it! Thanks!"
How on Earth does that translate to her hating her car and being ungrateful about it?

Back to the werewolf thing... To me, the misunderstanding is just an example of being unfamiliar with your history.
i know a guy who grew up thinking he was black with African origins, but he did some ancestry research and found out he was Jamacan and Hatian. He's not African at all, it happens.

It rains more than 1/3 of the time in Forks. It rains, on average about 155 days a year, give or take a few days, which is 42%, which is 21/50 (and in case you don't know, that is more than 1/3 but less than 1/2).
You should try to not exaggerate so much, because you're not very good at it and you end up just saying incorrect thing. Every single day that the Cullens skipped school were days that it wasn't cloudy or rainy. There was even an entire week of sunshine and the Cullens didn't attend classes. There were also many many days not accounted for. Days where they stayed in all day. Days where Carlisle seemed to stay at home all day (meaning he did not leave to go to work, which I would assume was because the weather did not permit)

Edward was supposed to be two inches... I don't even know what you're talking about.


I believe that if you physically can't read a book, you may want to get tested.
I can understand lacking the desire to read a book, but that's a really passive issue that should not be causing such a serious problem. Just a small stone of advice for your friends.

I believe that if you physically can't read a book, you may want to get tested.
I can understand lacking the desire to read a book, but that's a really passive issue that should not be causing such a serious problem. Just a small stone of advice for your friends.

This. Reading a little bit of one chapter in an entire series ≠ reading the whole series and understanding it. If someone wants to debate, they need to read the whole thing themselves, not give up after a few pages in the first chapter and copy/paste the criticism other people have said online.

I believe that if you physically can't read a book, you may want to get tested.
What do you even mean by that?
And I do a lot of research given to me by friends for no reason. They tell me stuff and I search it up to see if it's right.

And I saw breaking dawn part 1 because an ex made me while we were together. I wanted to whack myself with a hardcover Bible every minute of it. Absolutely nothing happened but a 10 second battle scene that there wasn't even a battle.

What I mean by that is a normally functioning person should be physically able to read a book, even if they don't like it. (Plenty middle and high school students do it all the time, I know I did.)

They tell me stuff and I search it up to see if it's right.
That only works with concrete facts, not literary interpretations. If you want to interpret a scene in a book, you have to actually read it, as well as the events leading up to it AND the effect it has on later events.
That's like catching the middle of Jurassic Park and saying, "That's stupid, dinosaurs are extinct! How can they even be there??" Even after checking online to verify that dinosaurs are indeed extinct, you still didn't get it right.

But yeah, the BD part 1 battle was stupid and didn't make any sense. They just added random fighting to satisfy the people who can't watch a movie without any battles.

Apparently you missed one of my earlier comments. That is alright. I said that that I could read Lord of the Rings and go deep into it, but I couldn't even get through Twilight at all.
My friends tell me random things about twilight and I check about 10 different websites to see if what they said is correct. And in Jurassic Park, they had a plot leading up to the dinosaurs.
There wasn't actually any fight. It was a charge then nothing.

Nope, i didn't miss anything.

Wreater123: And in Jurassic Park, they had a plot leading up to the dinosaurs.

I believe she was using JP as a point, not to say that the dinosaurs are irrational in the plot, but to say that checking the internet for facts about a story does not give you the whole picture. Your friends may tell you bits and pieces about what happens in Twilight, but you don't know the context of what they tell you. Like with JP, if you didn't know the plot behind why the dinosaurs were there, you would be skeptical of their existence in the movie. And if you Google whether there are dinosaurs like those in the movie that walk around today, you would get answers saying "No." BUT that does not take into account the plot that leads up to their existence in the movie. The same with Twilight: if you don't know the context of what your friends are telling you (which is best obtained through reading the whole series yourself), then you can't just throw random facts around that were "confirmed" by Google. The best arguments are backed up with evidence, especially when you have the whole picture.

I only read the first reasons but I had to stop 'cause I couldn't handle all the nonsense. Those reasons are exactly the same reasons as the reasons from the topic 'reasons why HP is better than twilight, and that topic is older, so this topic is just a copy. And the reasons why HP is better have proof! The reasons here are just opinions. And can you just stop being stupid and stating things that are si not true. Like 'Omg! HP is a total ripp of of twilight! First there was jacob black and then you had Sirius Black! So stupid!!!'.. I mean.. Really??? Check out the wich book was first abd you will see wich Black was first.

Yes sirus was first so how can you people say JK copied Stephanie?

Going with what the Potterheads said (You go guys), about Twihards reasoning, I can safely say this:
Stephanie copied almost all of Harry Potter with names and fantasy creatures like werewolves.
And it's a proven fact that Twilight is ruining more relationships than anywhere recorded in history.

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Stephanie copied almost all of Harry Potter with names and fantasy creatures like werewolves.

JK Rowling did not invent werewolves, nor did she invent the names "Black," "Bella," "Angela," etc.

And it's a proven fact that Twilight is ruining more relationships than anywhere recorded in history.

Okay, I'm going to ignore your obvious exaggeration that it s ruining more relationships than anything else in history (not spousal abuse or alcohol/drug abuse, but a book series? Yeah, okay). Anyway, anything that someone is overtly obsessed with can ruin a relationship. Guess what other obsessions end relationships? Football, video games, Star Trek... As long as a person is paying more attention to something other than their partner, it will ruin a relationship. It does not mean that there is something wrong with the thing that is being obsessed over. There is something wrong with the person doing the obsessing.

Well uhh SMeyer and JKR both used pretty common names...
Like the last name Black... Oh my god, is Rebecca Black copying them, too??
And Charlie... Oh my, that's where Charles M. Schulz got the idea of Charlie Brown!!
Alice... There's another one who went down a rabbit hole and entered Wonderland!

I'm not so worried by these, but then SMeyer decided to take it another step further, by giving Jacob Black have the ability to become a wolf pretty much anytime he wanted to. Wow, can't an Animagus like Sirius Black do that too, but become a black dog instead?

Honestly, I'm kinda sick of this "SMeyer copied JKR" shit all over the place. Maybe it's true in some cases, but do you really need to spread the news and make it seem as if JKR came up with the name "Charlie" and that everyone who uses it is copying her?

1- the writing is better
No, J.K. 's writing is better than Smeyer

2- the actors/actresses who film the movie are talented
I hardly see no expressions or real "acting" in them. PLUS Robbert DID NOT LIKE playing in twilight, he liked HP dear C:

3- bella is a role model (she teaches people to hold on to their friendships and stuff and keep their secrets)
Oh dear broomsticks, Harry is way better. Harry shows us to confront our fears, find our inner strength, and doing what is right! Bella shows us how important it is to have a boyfriend. -_-
(Yes, i got idea's from Steven king's quote)

4-it has a PLOT!!
Not much, she gets a boyfriend, he leaves, sparkels, sparkles, comes back, gets married, has a baby. Not such a good plot hun. Harry's plot is too amazing for words c:

5-the scenes in the movies are exciting
They are dull. Harry's scenes are amazing!

6- the effects are amazing
Siriusly? How did all of the creatures,dragons,ect. get up there. AMAZING effects and computer animation! The only computer animation what the wolves. -_-

7-a story about a vampire,werewolf, and mortal beats a swinging wand boy and his enemy the beast
Harry's story is more interesting.

8- the actors and actresses are attached to their character and love them
Again, Robbert Pattison didn't like playing Edward, he liked Cedric.

9-the characters are not all good or all evil
In harry potter there are characters that are good and some that are evil.

10-the evil people are villians for a reason like the newborn army in eclipse who almost killed the whole city of seattle or the volturi (they are not evil evil they have some good in them)

There are villians that are evil, but have good in them. (I could go on with characters -_- )

11-the characters in twilight are nice and have a great personality and they are hot and cool too (they are lovable for that)
Harry Potter characters are cool,hot,ect. Twilight is dull

12-the cover of the books are drawn beautifully
I LOVE Harry Potter art more than twilight's. It actually has details and characters on it.

13-the posters of the movie looks verrrry cool
Harry's Posters bring more mystery and awesomeness.

14- creative and great ideas of the vampire form
SPARKLING? NOPE.

15- you can make your own stories out of the chapters of twilight
(you can make stories out of harry potter too but twilight turns out better than harry potter)
No, you can pretend your with Harry,Ron, and Hermione and walk through the castle with them. Your just kind of "there" in twilight.

16- the phrase twi-hard is cool
Potterheads sound cool too (way more cool)

17-the mashup name renesmee is so creative
Not really. It's a weird name.

18- Meyer made the werewolves and vampire unite even though they are enemies to each other
do you mean RUINED great and classic horror!

19-the book is an international bestseller and an award winning book too (chosen by book critiques)
OH MY QUIDDITCH! HP got WAY more many awards. Does it even matter about the awards.

20-there are lessons you can learn from twilight (the thing u can learn from harry potter is how to do a spell on your friend so he can help u)

Harry Potter is about confronting fears, finding inner strength and doing what is right in the face of adversity. Twilight is about how important it is to have a boyfriend." — Stephen King

21-the emotions are deep in twilight and is a wide imaginative world (unlike wand boy)
HP brings way more emotion, unlike SPARKLE boy.


22- she replaces small simple words to long big words for people to be more educated not use simple words everyone can understand
J.K. Does it too.

23-twilight has a theme of a mystical and imaginative world
OMG, IT'S IN A NORMAL EVERYDAY WORLD\LIFE. Harry Potter creates a WHOLE NEW WORLD for us to explore!

24- twilight is read by a massive audience
That does not make it better.

25-the fight scenes are sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo amazing and you feel the fight by someway
The fight scenes are more intense and creative in Harry Potter

26-the twilight quotes are really nice written and you feel the creativity in them
I don't! H.P.'S quote are more creative and emotional.

27-Meyer left clues for you to know the identity of each and every character
That's boring knowing EVERY little detail about them. Harry Potetr creates mystery, then they show more details, ect.

I know that rant up there is from 1 year ago, but whatever. C:

Disputing opinions with opinions. Nice.

Just saying, I was using Twihard logic (as I said earlier) for the names and werewolf thing
And what the others said was not opinion.

Look at this for a second:
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Twilight is a pretty new thing and it already has almost 10000000 results. It's kinda scary.

Your link sends us to Google Canada. (I would suggest typing "opinion" into that search bar and look at a few of those results.)

The REAL difference between Twi-hards bashing Harry Potter and Potterheads bashing Twilight is that we Potterheads have actually read Twilight and can formulate an educated opinion. I have read Twilight myself and it wasn't horrible a book and it wasn't a great book. But that's all it was and all it will ever be. A book. I read it, put it down and moved on. I couldn't delve into it like I could with Harry Potter. J. K. Rowling created her own world within ours where we went on magical adventures and made friends and played Quidditch. J. K. Rowling spent an unimaginable amount of time planning out every detail and how every thing came together. After the series ended, Potterheads could still live in the magic, finding connections and ties we had missed the first time around. We have different OTPs and ships but beyond that we are a family, no matter what. The only thing that Twi-hards can argue about is who Bella will marry and I can't held but feel that the Twilight fandom is divided terribly because of that.

Oh, and to all the Twi-hard that accuse Queen J. K. Rowling of stealing names like "Black" and "Bella", HARRY POTTER WAS PUBLISHED FIRST. And Rob Pattinson was ours first too. He will always be Cedric Diggory.