Harry Potter Vs. Twilight Club
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This article was NOT written by me. I found this somewhere else as a comment and thought it was great and that it should be shared. Don't give any credit to me. I just copy pasted.

First of all- Harry Potter isn’t just a childish bedtime story. Nor is it shallow. A story based off a single dream has no depth. Twilight fans will never what kind of man James was before he turned vampire. Rowling, however, spent 15 years planning every little detail. She created a world within our own for her witches and wizards. She has based their heritage off of real mythology and history. Their spells are in a dead language and they have organized governments with strict laws. She has followed her characters’ stories from childhood to graduation and many times to their deaths. One of the best things about this series is that you can study these intricate details. The Twilighters can only argue about who Bella will marry. In Harry Potter, there are arguments over everything from Snape’s loyalty, to the cryptic meaning of Trelawney’s prophesies, to petty ship-wars. In Twilight, very few people ask the questions “What does she mean by that?” “Are these two little details supposed to be connected?” “How did she get that idea?” “Does this result differently than we think it will?” To Potter fans, these are common, everyday questions. Like an amusing childhood fairytale, Meyer’s “saga” is to be taken for face value; delving deep within will display its undesirable flaws. The mere fact that Harry Potter makes you think, makes you question Rowling, and causes you to come up with creative theories proves its superiority.

One of the primary arguments presented by Twilighters is that their book is more emotional that Harry Potter. I, however, beg to differ. Let’s delve into the subject of love, after all that is the primary emotion in Twilight. In Twilight, there is only one kind of affection found: an obsessive, oppressive, “without him I become a dull zombie” wet dream. Unlike Twilight, Harry Potter proves that there is incredible power in love, and that love doesn’t always work out. Unfortunately, I have to agree with WhatIsRightOrWhatIsEasy; neither of these books even compare in romance to Jane Austin. In Harry Potter, we have many different kinds of love present: Parental love, romantic love, sibling love, platonic love, childhood crushes, and unrequited love. There are two loves in particular that aren’t present in Twilight: parental love and unrequited love.

The parental love found in Harry Potter is incredibly rich. Molly Weasley and Lilly Potter are perfect examples of motherly love, and display it in their own special ways. Lilly sacrifices her life to protect Harry. The magic that results aids Harry until the Goblet of Fire. Stop and think about THAT for a moment. If a murderer or a kidnapper tried to separate you from your child, would you be willing to die to protect your child? What if you knew that there was only a slim chance of your baby surviving and growing up afterwards? This is one of the most beautiful acts of courage and selflessness in the entire series. The other super-mom, Molly, has an intense love for her children. While she scrambles to make ends meet, she still has plenty of room in her big heart for Harry and Hermione; Harry comes to see her as a second mother. She is also ferociously protective of her children. After Bellatrix attempts to kill Ginny, Molly singlehandedly takes down her daughter’s attacker. In Twilight, you neither see Bella’s mother or Bella displaying this much love and strength for their babies. The lesson: Never EVER mess with a mad mama- you will pay with your life. The Harry Potter men also make better dads. They support, protect, teach, and laugh with their kids; they wouldn’t think twice of dying for them, and will raise and care for their friend’s children. Sirius Black escapes prison and becomes a wanted fugitive to protect Harry, and later Harry raises Teddy Lupin after the Battle of Hogwarts. James Potter goes down fighting to protect his baby boy as does Remus. In the Epilogue of Deathly Hallows, Ron is seen loving on his daughter. Unlike Miss Swan’s father, he refuses to just sit around watching TV and be deceived. Instead, he jokes and encourages his daughter; it’s evident that he’s rightfully proud of her, and he’s going to let the whole world know that. Arthur Weasley is the same way. Love and dedication. It’s obvious that the Cullens stand no chance against that.

What about unrequited love, the most painful emotion ever to exist? All I have to say is one name: Severus Snape. After befriending Lilly as a child, he fell in love with her, only to be denied her love in return. Their original friendship survived house rivalries and Marauder ridicule for five years; even after losing her as a friend, Snape continued to love Lilly and remained fiercely loyal to her long after her death. The most emotional thing about Snape’s love for Lilly is that he felt that he was the cause of her death. He realized that his handful of mistakes lead to a lifetime of regret. He could have begged for death or even committed suicide, but he remained strong and kept all of that, pain, remorse, and love inside. Now that’s passion.

Another thing that Rowling succeeds in doing that is missed by Meyers is recognizing the reality of adolescence. Not everyone in the world is the popular new girl who manages to snag the hottest guy in school, and Rowling knew this. Where in Twilight do you see the person that everyone teases, turns their backs on, and snubs? They aren’t found in Forks. Who are the oddballs, klutzes, victims, social outcasts, recluses? They don’t exist. In Harry Potter, almost everyone takes these roles at least once, although there are some whose names stand out: Neville Longbottom, Luna Lovegood, Snape, even Hermione and Harry. Are there any idiots in Twilight who are likely to fail school? Beyond anyone who finds sparkly vampires attractive, there are no Crabbes or Goyles in that series. What about school bullies? And no, James and his little gang don’t count. Twilight, the utopia where people don’t pick on and torment each other has never existed, doesn’t exist, and until Judgment Day, never will. Just ask Draco. There are dozens of cliques in the teenage world with thousands branches, but Meyers chooses to only portray 3: the popular, ordinary kids, the mysterious “vegetarian” vampires, and a pack of Native American shape-shifting werewolves. In Harry Potter, the cliques can be as broad as the four Houses, or as small as an individual person. There are the Quidditch players, the study-holics, the quirky pariahs, the fan-girls of the current heartthrob, Dumbledore’s Army, Inquisitorial Squad, Slug Club, the pranksters, the Slytheryns, Death Eaters in training, etc.

The most important emotions and themes present in Harry Potter that isn’t even found in Twilight is prejudice. It is only alluded to twice in Twilight- werewolves vs. vampires, and Bella’s hybrid baby. In Harry Potter, it is one of the cornerstone motifs. There is rivalry between houses- especially Gryffindor and Slytheryn. “Pure-Bloods” shun their muggle-born counterparts, who they call “mud-bloods”. Part-blood wizards in Slytheryn are pressured to disown their muggle roots, which leads Snape to call himself the “Half-Blood Prince,” and Tom Riddle to become Lord Voldemort. Whole blood wizards and witches who sympathize with muggle-borns are called “blood-traitors.” In the seventh book, this blood-based discrimination is very pronounced; the Death Eater controlled Ministry of Magic orders a roundup of muggle-born witches and wizards, who get sent to Azakaban. Even Hermione, who manages to dodge court, gets a brutal taste of this intolerance. While captured with Harry and Ron in the Malfoy’s mansion, it is she who is tortured by Bellatrix, primarily for her blood status. That sounds like a real Holocaust to me. Remus, who is a good man and skilled wizard, is forced into permanent unemployment just because he is a werewolf. Dumbledore shows a mercy that looks beyond the common bigotry when he offers him a job as the Defense Against the Dark Arts teacher. When parents find out his secret, they are outraged and force him to resign. Hagrid is even attacked by Umbrige, and it’s barely coincidence that he happens to be half-giant. Prejudice doesn’t even stop among wizards. House elves are reduced to slavery for wealthy wizarding families, and even in their freedom, most have no other occupation but in the kitchens. Goblins are held with mistrust by many wizards after they stage a revolt while seeking equality. Righteously outraged centaurs attack Umbridge after she calls them beasts of sub human intelligence. One of the reasons that Harry managed to win the final battle was that he and his allies managed to put their prejudices aside and unite to fight an evil.

In fact, there are many social issues in Meyer’s “saga” that lack conviction; for one, there is the almost total lack of social class stratification in Twilight. In Harry Potter, there are the incredibly rich Malfoys, the massive inheritance bestowed upon Harry, the middle-class Dursleys and Grangers, and at the bottom, the Weasleys, who survive from paycheck to paycheck (pre Wizardly Wheezes). Foreign influences in vampire world are limited to the Italian Volturi and a few feral vampires. Foreigners in Harry Potter include the French Beauxbatons and the Eastern European Drumstang- which includes the Bulgarian Viktor Krum. There are mentions of Foreign Ministries of Magic and even magical organizations in North America. While Bill worked as a curse-breaker in Egypt, and Charlie was among dragons in Romania, Voldemort laid low in Albania. During the Triwizard Tournament, different breeds of dragons from multiple nations are pitted against the competitors; they include the Hungarian Horntail, the Chinese Fireball, the Swedish Short-Snout, and a Welsh Green.

And don’t even get me started on the topic of feminism. Twilight is full of gender role stereotypes that ARE vampires- these sexist notions should have been dead decades ago, but instead continue to haunt this world and suffocate women of what they truly deserve. Here are some of the chauvinistic concepts present: Bella happily cooks dinner and cleans house for her father as he cleans his gun, drinks a beer, and watches football on TV. Like some housewife from the 1950’s, she acts like belongs in the kitchen. This is the 21st century, where guys can cook too! Despite Edward’s urging her to get an education and encourages her to hope and dream, she decides to stay at home, cook, and care for the family. Although I have no problems with a stay at home mom, something is definitely wrong when every woman in the series shares the same occupation. Methinks Meyers’ women enjoy staying home hiding behind their husbands. Then Edward decides to begin dictating who she may be friends with, going to the point of removing the tires from her truck. ABUSIVE RELATIONSHIP ALERT!! Bella also completely falls apart when Edward leaves her, and only recovers when she begins spending time with Jacob. What’s with the constant need for a man in her life? Whenever she is exposed to peril, Jacob or Edward must come to the rescue. Bella isn’t even seen fighting side-by-side with Edward; usually she’s hiding somewhere behind him as he goes in for the kill. After discovering that Forks is in western Washington, I was even more surprised by this sexist point of view because Washington is usually pretty liberal.

This is much different than the Trio; Harry and Ron’s survival is quite dependent on Hermione’s intelligence, quick wit, and guidance. At one point, in the Chamber of Secrets, Ron ends up admitting “Where’s Hermione when you need her?” Compared to Twilight, there is no dearth of equality for women in Harry’s world. Here women can be feminine without being submissive. In the rough game of Quidditch, there are many talented female players: Angelina Johnson, Katie Bell, Alicia Spinnet, Ginny and Cho. The Holyhead Harpies is a professional all women’s team in the sport. Women also rise to prominent positions in government. Umbridge-no matter how corrupt she is- had a high standing position in the Ministry of Magic; later we learn that Hermione rises through the ranks in the same government and leads reforms that undo centuries of prejudice. They had their first woman Minister of Magic in the 1750’s! The muggle world was still being dominated by guys at that time. The females in Harry Potter truly kick ***! In the Battle of Hogwarts, students and alumni of all genders and ages unite to defend their school. Formidable female fighters on both sides include Bellatrix Lastrange, Ginny, Professor McGonnagal, Mrs. Weasley, and Tonks. Even Luna is a strong, quirky character who manages to hold her own.

And to everyone saying that the vampires of Twilight are fitter, sexier, and tougher than our wizards, I’ve got some news for you. You people really have your attraction priorities messed up. From what I’ve read of Twilight, I assume that by fitter you mean more muscular. Too many muscles on a guy is as bad as no muscles at all. In New Moon, Bella got pretty bruised up, if you know what I mean. You see, in Quidditch, the players get toned, flexible, and quick. Holding and navigating a broom probably requires strong thigh and hip muscles- when a guy has those, it’s hottest thing ever. Quidditch players also have to make quick swerves to dodge bludgers, twist their bodies to catch quaffles, reach just a little farther than their opponent to grab the snitch, and need strong arms to hurl quaffles and hit bludgers. Also, we Harry Potter fans know that brains equal beauty. A person can be the fittest hunk in the universe, but if they don’t have brains or wits, they are hideous. I’m sure that there are Harry Potter fans here in this blog who think that the Weasley twins’ witty pranks, Hermione’s intense knowledge, and any other genius, sharp-tongue, or Ravenclaw is a turn-on. Harry Potter’s characters earn their sexiness. Only the luckiest have genes on their side. In the terms of physical and mental attraction, I think that’s hotter than anything Twilight could offer- undead beings whose bodies automatically become glittery, super-strong, and super fast when they turn into vampires. So keep your “perfect” vamps; we have hot Quidditch players and gorgeous brainaics- the best of BOTH worlds.

I don’t think Meyers knows much about animals- either that or the fictional residents of Forks are incredibly stupid. In New Moon, these civilians describe the werewolves as looking like bears. Seriously, Forks is in Washington- they should know a bear when they see one! This detail is one of my pet peeves with Twilight because I volunteer at a zoo that has two Timberwolves, a Siberian Grizzly, and a pair of Black Bears. To set Meyers straight, bears and wolves are drastically anatomically and socially different. The closest they come to being related is that they both belong to the Suborder Caniformia.
Before you start reading please understand that this is all based on MY opinion and not everyone can think the same.If you are a Twilight fan you don't have to start a fight,just say you disagree and tell us why.


Before,i posted an article from someone who made a few reasons on why Harry Potter is better but it got flamed(I'm guessing because it was too direct.) so i decidet to point out my main 5 reaons on why i think Harry Potter is better.




1.Harry Potter character are more..alive.

Harry Potter characters have so much personality,they are interesting because of it.I can tell you so much about...
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posted by woofbark
Okay, I'm going to give reasons why each book is better in this article. Then, comment, argue/contradict my points, and start a reasonable debate (not a fight) on the comment board, please!
PRO TWILIGHT
I'm not a big Twilight fan, but I can try to come up with some reasons:
1.Bella's emotions are described in depth, leaving no area unexplored. We know exactly how she feels at every second, whether she is gazing at Edward or making noodles. (this could also be a drawback-you can't have a story be completely emotion and no story)
2.Love? Well, Edward and Bella are in a relationship where they...
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posted by FredWRules
-harry’s hormones went overdrive when he saw this spankin’ hot qurl from the ravenclaw quidditch team.

-being the teenage boy he is, he didn’t make a move until it was the yule ball and it turns out that this d00d cedric asked her out.

-then this d00d died and cho was all “bawwww cedric” but somehow she managed to get over all that because of harry’s eternal glory the strategically placed mistletoe. so they kissed.

-then they dated on valentine’s day in hogsmeade and cho wanted to be all “baww cedric” in front of harry. but harry, being the hormone-driven infatuated teenager he is, was all ears.

-then it ended when harry said he was meeting hermione, because apparently cho’s the only one allowed to talk about someone else in their relationship.
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I made a list of combined and possible plot holes about Harry Potter. Some of them I came up with myself, and some of them I got from different places online. If you can give explanation answering the questions ,do it please.
I purposely put in a few really really picky question because there are a lot of articles about Twilight like this, so I want to see how Harry Potter fans respond to the ridiculously picks questions. I'm not going to tell you which ones they are, but they should be easy to pick out.





1.    Why do the founders of Hogwarts have surnames? Family names weren’t...
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posted by BedIntruder
95 Reasons Why Twilight Sucks
Opinion by BedIntruder posted 4 hours ago


1. Bella is a perfect character (“Mary Sue”), which Meyer hides by calling her clumsy.
2. Being clumsy is not a flaw if Edward always catches her.
3. She can’t do anything without Edward.
4. And when he leaves she attempts to commit suicide.
5. Meyer is living out her own fantasies by writing about Bella, who is clearly herself.
6. The books aren’t well written, just because every other word is a fancy adjective doesn’t make it good writing.
7. All the rules Meyer sets for being a vampire are broken by the end of the...
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(i have edited this article so there r no spelling mistakes :) )

Hello everyone, today I'm going to tell you why Twilight is a BILLION times better than the Harry Potter. Here are some reasons.

1. First, they are no swear words!! I mean I heard in Hp they is swearing, like "h*ll" and "b*tch" I mean little kids are reading that!! Like 7 and 8 years olds!! It's crazy!!!111 In Twilight, there is no swearing beacuse it is a child safe book :)

2. HP is for kids only!! I mean Twilight is for all ages!!! I haven't read HP but I know only little kids read it!! Twilight is for everyone, my 10 year old...
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116. "BTW Twilight is the bestest film ever" I get really frusterated when soomebody compares the films instead off the movies. And whats worse is that you arent giving any reasons. "Stop hating, pick-up Twilight, actually read it and you will love it and stop hating Twilight". Has it ever occurred to you that twilight haters have read the whole series? Like me? "HP is all around boring and it is made for younger children". I dont understand how Harry Potter can be so boring. Maybe you didnt keep up with the amount of action and romance and magic and the mystery. Or maybe you didnt read...
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posted by lucius_malloy
So, once there was this girl - well, actually that girl still is - but anyway, this girl who we'll call Emma, for the purposes of now. (Well, actually, we'll call her that because it's her name. But you get the point.)

Around two, two and a half years ago, when Emma was in sixth grade, one of her friends - let's call her K, if she must have a name - was reading a book that looked rather interesting. It was black, with a shiny hard cover, and had an apple on the front. It was called Houkutus, which translates to Temptation. Emma liked the name and thought it might prove an interesting read, but...
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posted by GemonkDruid
Too true!
Too true!
I discovered these song spoofs in my writing folder from my "Uber-Anti" stage, and I decided to share it with you guys, for the sake of nostalgia and whatnot.

Dumb Isabella (spoof on Umbrella by Rihanna)-

You wanna be, a sparkly Meyer-pire like me
Maybe in your dreams, but never in reality
Until you agree, to take my hand and marry me
And that's when you’ll want me there
to turn you into a vampire
Because

[Chorus]
You’re a stupid Sue who wants us together
Told you I'll be here forever
Said I'll always be your bitch
Took an oath I regret, you crazy witch
Now it's raining more than ever
But we’re...
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here is the website:

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1. he/she just said "its not" (completley agree with them)
1 1/2. (y is there a half?) the person just said that its not.
2. i dont think that many ppl can relate 2 twilight b/c we aren't that obessissive to jump off a cliff or hurt ourselves 4 r sweeties (at least i hope not), i dont feel any emotion at all and i certaintley don't want 2 b bella. Harry Potter has a story 2 and it's better. (response to "It's as if u hav a story")When I read Harry Potter, I feel as if I understand him better then bella because he goes through a lot more then bella.
2. (i think its unfair...
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posted by LoveforSeverus
Well I've been writing a little fanfic recently and I realized that when I write fanfic, I mostly let my character's handle the plot. Whatever happens to pop in my head at the time, and doesn't go completely against the overall story line, gets put in the fanfic.
But Smeyer says that she wrote Twilight by just "letting her characters handle the plot". There by making it seem a lot like how, not only I, but other people, write fan fiction.
I decided to look up some reasons of what makes a good fan fiction:
"1. Choose the anime/manga/book/video game/movie you want your fan-fic to be about." Vampire's...
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posted by GemonkDruid
First, let me get this straight: I'm not a fan of Twilight. In fact, I hate it. But I can see why everyone's so hyped up about it.

You see, I've recently been introduced to a new theory- The Twelve-Year-Old girl theory. It's mostly used in music, like for popular icons like Hannah Montana, Justin Bieber, the Jonas Brothers, but Twilight also fits into this catagory.

What is the Twelve-Year-Old girl theory, you might ask? Well, let's just look at people at the age of twelve first. When you turn twelve, you're on the thin line between childhood and the teen years. You're young and vulnerable,...
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posted by LilRavenclaw95
Okay, my friend and I go to a school that has a thing called 'Lit Circles'. There's a list of books, and Twilight is on there, but not Harry Potter. My friend thought this was totally wrong, and wrote a super long persuasive essay to our English teacher about it. This was all hers, and I can't take credit for how awesome it is :)

Why Twilight Should Be Replaced by Harry Potter in Lit Circles

    Two books sit on the shelf in front of you; on the cover of the first, you see two pale hands holding a deep red apple. The second features a young boy on a broomstick, in midair as...
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posted by ryomaidol
My cousin says we, Harry Potter fans are insecure about this ranting. How should I respond to this?!


(I HAVE TAKEN THINGS FROM OTHER ARTICLES HERE, sorry if used without permission)


HERE IS THE ACTUAL CONVERSATION:

Kjerrimyr リョーマ Andres: says Twilight ang pasimuno ng mga JEJEMON (ANGRY) (Twilight started the Jejemon movement)
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** ******: weh? PROVE IT!!!
41 minutes ago ·

Kjerrimyr リョーマ Andres: link wahahahah
33 minutes ago ·

** ******: duh! nonsense!
23 minutes ago ·

Kjerrimyr リョーマ Andres: haha Twilighters...
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I did not write this.
1. If a boy is aloof, stand-offish, ignores you or is just plain rude, it is because he is secretly in love with you — and you are the point of his existence.
2.Secrets are good — especially life-threatening ones.
3. It’s OK for a potential romantic interest to be dimwitted, violent and vengeful — as long as he has great abs.
4. If a boy tells you to stay away from him because he is dangerous and may even kill you, he must be the love of your life. You should stay with him since he will keep you safe forever.
5. If a boy leaves you, especially suddenly (while telling...
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