The Dragon Queen & Targaryen crew conquer Gaztelugatxe! SPOILERS! 

filming only for a day, but it was quite a fruitful day —Not only for the production but also for the local press, who were there to give us our first look at what many of our main characters will be doing this coming season. The day’s work did not end there, however: Later in the day, Emilia Clarke made her fist public appearance on set this year. At long last, we get to see the Dragon Queen, Daenerys Targaryen, in her new conquering regalia.

, Kit Harington and Liam Cunningham spent the whole morning filming what appears to be the single scene we already reported on: King Jon and Ser Davos going down the stairway of Gaztelugatxe, perhaps being escorted by Missandei. Later on, however, another scene was being filmed, and this one involved the whole Targaryen Crew: Queen Daenerys Targaryen, bearer of many titles (Emilia Clarke); Tyrion Lannister, Hand of the Queen (Peter Dinklage); Missandei, adviser and interpreter (Nathalie Emmanuel); Grey Worm, commander of the Unsullied (Jacob Anderson), and Varys, Master of Whisperers (Conleth Hill). Take a look:

This is the first time we get to see Varys and Grey Worm this year, and you may notice the Unsullied Commander, as well as all of his troops, have adapted to the colder weather of Westeros. Just as the Dothraki are wearing furs for the first time, the Unsullied now cover their previously unprotected arms. Let us be honest, however: Except for those who —for some reason— watch the show for realistic military logistics, most of us are probably more interested in what the Dragon Queen is wearing. Apparently, Daenerys has opted for a more martial-looking outfit than usual, very much like Missandei, though this one seems to be brown. Sadly, those of us who are hoping she embraces her

fully and dresses all in black and red will have to wait.

Now, why are we discussing the dress and not the contents of what was actually filmed? Because, as of yet, we have no idea. This may be their arrival to Dragonstone, or another scene entirely. What is now undeniable is that Jon Snow and Daenerys Targaryen will be in the same location in season seven, even though we have not seen them sharing a scene yet. Please share your thoughts on the scene in the comments!

UPDATED: Filming in Gaztelugatxe continued this morning and, yet again,

is our lifeline to the otherwise well-guarded production. In this scene, the Targaryen and Northern teams walk together up the stairs, though Daenerys is absent.

EITB also filmed some of the shooting/Emilia’s arrival from a distance:

In context, it seems likely the two monarchs would meet

Dragonstone, which would be filmed in Northern Ireland’s Titanic Studios. That said, it is still exciting to witness characters as disparate as Davos and Missandei sharing a scene and perhaps a conversation. Even better is the reunion of Jon and Tyrion, who have not seen each other since the latter pissed off the edge of the Wall and left Castle Black only to be soon captured by Catelyn. Good times! They must have so much to catch up on… If they have any time for chit-chat, that is. Season seven promises to be a packed one!

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She looks amazing as always. And her wig seems more white than the usual blonde- that’s great.

I wonder whether the brown she is wearing will look red on screen perhaps? Like how Davos’ drab dark robes came up quite green in better quality close up.

Its very much similar to missandei’s but the color is matching with jon’s

If this is her landing scene and first steps towards the castle iam happy its happening at evening like i wished .

I hope the set photos from today and yesterday are not of the same scene leading to the first meeting. Jon as King only taking Davos, no Longclaw and no entourage while Daenerys brings everyone? wtf?

Casual reminder that Dany is going to war and will be flying on a dragon, so she cannot wear the fancy red and black dresses you want her to wear yet.

Dany confiscated Longsclaw, She is going to give it to Jorah.

OK let’s say its the same scene who would you have jon brought with him..

As I was typing the list it just strike me that sending jon gives us the reason to lock up ghost all season at winterfell..in other words he will be absent ..

Iam wondering whether this season they are gonna give armor and saddle for both dany and drogon..

Maybe she will wear fancy a queen dress inside castle and council meeting

I love that outfit ,she is not the Queen of the Iron throne yet, she is a conqueror . I also like Missandeis gown ,it’s different this season because the climate is different and the character isn’t used to it.I love these little details.

I guess scaly reptiles are fancier to the showrunners than direwolves, the warging and the deep bond between them and Starks (it doesn’t exist in the show). I wonder why they bothered to introduce them at all seeing as they cut out many things, they could as well have cut them out altogether. They’ve been useless and barely there most of the time, so unlike their book counterparts.

If it’s supposed to be peace talks, then one side shouldn’t be armed while the other defenseless. It’s either both have soldiers and weapons or neither. I hope they don’t continue their policy of dumbing Jon down, and the Northern Lords by extension.

It belongs to Jon. He probably left the sword in the boat.

When he met Lyanna Mormont and Lord Glover he didn’t take the sword with him too.

Haha! I love how the Unsullied look like they’ve just put on jumpers under their usual leather gear! 😀

As much fun as these spoilers are, they’re just reinforcing my belief that 13 episodes is NOT ENOUGH to finish this properly.

Yes I want things to pick up the pace (we meandered through season 5 especially), but I don’t want a mad dash to the end. There are tons of complex story lines and relationships that have been either obviously or subtly introduced over six seasons (or not yet introduced at all but we know are coming!), and I want them to all come together thoughtfully for an epic conclusion.

I’m worried that, especially without the books to guide the showrunners, we’ll lose some of the underlying context and attention to detail that has made GoT the best entertainment series ever (TV, film, stage etc.). That we’ll have too many quick resolutions and overnight relationships to wrap up loose ends for the sake of wrapping up loose ends, not giving enough time to let the major stories/relationships breathe and grow organically. That it’ll feel forced.

Don’t get me wrong, I love GoT. I can’t wait to see how this season unfolds and the spoilers have me pretty pumped. But I think I’d feel much better if we had two full seasons left.

That’s inevitable. The last seasons will be simplified to the max.

Dany is the queen of the westeros, everything in westeros belongs to her including longsclaw. She promised to give Jorah badass sword so she will take longsclaw from Jon Snow

I think this might be her landing in Dragonstone. So exciting!

I really like the costume although I wish we had a better/clearer picture. I’ll have to look at Jon’s costume again to see the resemblance.

It looks like she’s tying her hair back, which I’m not crazy about because she looks better with her hair loose. But if she’s going into battle she needs her hair pulled back.

Even if he takes entire north with him.. He will still be out numbered

I’m not going to even try to discuss with you.

You clearly don’t know what you’re talking about.

LOL dial your Dany fanboyism/fangirlsm back. She is not Queen of anything in Westeros. Not yet and it’s looking like she won’t ever be. Nothing in Westeros belongs to her.

That’s not how you enter peace talks and forge alliances. And LC is Jon’s. It was given to him. She has absolutely no right to demand it and why would she? Tone down your BS tinfoil.

Hopefully we will be getting more pictures and videos as the day progresses

My first hope is a Sansa-Arya reunion my second hoped is proper , meaningful conversation between them .They both changed so much since they last saw each other .I want to see them bonding as they never bond before !Maybe team up against littlefinger !

The colours of her dress has no real importance in respect to the overall story so I’d not be surprised if we don’t see her in red and black.

Besides which – that colour combination is pretty garish (although I’ve no doubt Michelle Clapton can work wonders there).

Just don’t go getting your hopes up is all I’m sayin…

Daenerys can have her small dragons (see Balerion for contrast) and half naked Chippendales. Jon has a God on his side. Bran. Bran is well on his way to become more powerful than anyone.

She looks f*cking STUNNING. So powerful and strong, the outfit does her justice. She is not just a queen anymore, she is a conqueror, a warrior !

I’m literally drooling over her massive shoulderpads and arm gauntlets, someone needs to take better photos because I’m dying over here. The whole Dany squad looks effin badass but Missandei and Dany take the cake.

I’m still pissed over the fact that Kit is not there, they’re avoiding showing them in the same frame. But yesterday when I saw the photos of Kit and Liam I was 100% certain Dany was nearby, in the building maybe.

I put their pictures side by side, they do look alike. The picture quality sucks, but that’s all I had.

This is beyond exciting. I am so looking forward to S7. I hope that an alliance will be made and Jon can convince her that Winter IS Coming and along with it night terrors. I can’t believe we have to wait until next summer.

I love the new costumes. They seem fitting for a conquering army including Dany. She isn’t holding court in these pictures so what she is wearing is suitable for traveling. Looking good so far!

I think jon has more blue in his.. The quality really is bad..

Where is the guy who took that video of peter and liam ..

These are not peace talks. This is Daenerys summoning all lords of Westeros to meet her and bend their knee.

And this is Jon, who doesn’t give a fuck about being KitN except for one reason – it gives him the chance to unite the north for the fight against the REAL enemy.

If he needs to swear loyalty to the Targaryen queen to get her support in the fight against the WW, he will not think twice.

Besides, remember what Dany told Daario about using marriages to build political alliances… 😉

She reminds me a lot of season 2 in the house of undying ; and with that brown armor with scales and her hair tyed up she’s like a new visenya , now I just hope for dragon saddle .

I put their pictures side by side, they do look alike. The picture quality sucks, but that’s all I had.

I don’t see a similarity, except that the colour is similar.

The key feature of Dany’s costume is the collar/shoulders, and she also seems to have hanging false sleeves. Jon seems to be wearing ordinary Stark leather armour plus gorget (the neck thing).

Can’t really blame Jon for being a bit wanting in the fashion stakes, where would he have learned? For the past nearly six years he’s been living in a place where everybody wears black, poor guy! 😀

Hell yeah, the Targaryen squad united once again.

I can’t wait to see all of their interactions together especially that of Jon and Dany, it will be amazing.

That was one of my favorite looks of her… It suited very well with the snow

Jon’s undercoat or whatever he wears under the armor is brown. You can see the color better here:

Yes! I like the Warrior Queen look on her.

Well, there are not identical, obviously. But they are both brown and she’s wearing a more masculine outfit with the breaches much more exposed. I think the fron of Jon’s costume also opens up like hers.

I think the story will be simplified as there are only 13 remaining episodes. I know it’s impossible to know exactly what is in GRRM’s mind but I read somewhere that Tyrion and Dany are not expected to meet in the sixth book and, you know, – though I never thought I’d find myself typing this – I’m not even sure if I want to read it when it does come out (I suppose there’s always library loan though). I for one am pleased that we didn’t get endless repetitions “Where do whores go” and I haven’t shed any tears about the cutting of the Griffs from the TV show. The continuity people on the show do need to do a better job sometimes though – in season 2 when Tyrion was revealing three marriage plans for Myrcella to find out who as the spy (Pycelle) Tristane was said to be the younger son of the Martells (consistent with the books) and then in season 5 Tristane had become the only son with no explanation of anything happening to his older brother (or sister).

I don’t see a similarity, except that the colour is similar.

The key feature of Dany’s costume is the collar/shoulders, and she also seems to have hanging false sleeves. Jon seems to be wearing ordinary Stark leather armour plus gorget (the neck thing).

Can’t really blame Jon for being a bit wanting in the fashion stakes, where would he have learned? For the past nearly six years he’s been living in a place where everybody wears black, poor guy!

Are you kidding? He has a real fashionista in Winterfell. She should be able to dress him nicely.

Robb Stark looked more Kingly than him.

Just now I’m seeing the new post duh I’m gonna post almost the same thing here then

Emilia not with the rest of the cast. Again. I think she won’t hang with them while Kit is still there Lol

Poor Emilia, she lost the custody battle. Kit got to keep the kids. 😆

I know! I wasn’t sure of that because Emilia usually uses tons of filters in her IG photos but the new photos does make it look like her wig is lighter. What a relief. I want her season 1 wig back.

So whatever they’re filming in Spain right now is from episode 5 and if Matt Shakman helms more than one, either 4 or 6.

Maybe she will hang out with them after they are photographed on set lol even though this is ridiculous we know they are going to meet.What is Dany going to do stay in her room and refuse to come and meet him haha.

Iam thinking this is done deliberately to not to have them photographed together.

I just notice their colors are inverted. Jon is wearing black over brown and Dany brown over black.

Episode 1 and 2 – Jeremy Podeswa (confirmed by the director)

Episode 3 – Mark Mylod, Episode 4 and 5 – Matt Shakman, Episode 6 and 7 – Alan Taylor

Episode 3 and 4 – Mark Mylod, Episode 5 – Matt Shakman, Episode 6 and 7 – Alan Taylor

Who is that second from left in that picture?

Have faith in Spanish people they will get it done I’m sure of it.They are better than the CIA.

Matt Shakman, director. He’s the one directing what they’ve been filming lately.

Did Podeswa do another interview confirming he is doing Eps. 1 & 2? If you are talking about the interview a few months ago, I think that was the magazines interpretation.

Is that what I thought blue. I must be getting old..

I know I was waiting for somethjng black/red as many others but we know its coming, on a fancy dress or warrior/conqueror outfit like that one she’s wearing.

She looks very badass regardless of the color though. But regal and classy at the same time. I love her hair hair w/o being tyed up but that hair is fit for a dragon rider, everything is good.

No. Tyrion said that Myrcella will be wed to youngest son of Dorne. Not Doran Martell.

And this is Jon, who doesn’t give a fuck about being KitN except for one reason – it gives him the chance to unite the north for the fight against the REAL enemy.

Besides, remember what Dany told Daario about using marriages to build political alliances… 😉

no its just stupid. I am sick of some people wanting him to bend the knee, I dont think it will happen and he should not, it would be bad writing. Jon is not like inferior to dany. Dany fans can be really tiresome, oh everyone needs to bow down to the dragon queen! lol

It still makes no sense to me that they would be hiding Emilia and letting Kit get photographed with all her crew lol.

Well there’s a photo of Kit and Podeswa on set by Linen Mills (filming whatever Northern scenes) and there’s that call sheet which states Director: Jeremy Podeswa, Episode: 701. Unless it’s 704. It’s not entirely conclusive.

If he’s helming episode 704, then it means Jon is still in the North until then.

Maybe because it used to be blue greenish last season.This season it’s brown.

People on twitter are reportinf Kit and Liam are filming again. Someone saw Emilia but I’m still not sure where.

It’s meeting between vassal and ruler. Since when Jon Snow become equal to Daenerys the Queen of the all 7 kingdom and the empress of the Dotraiki and Ghiscari empire ? Dany is summoning her vassals all over Westeros

Haha, poor thing. She’s probably playing sudoku alone in her hotel room. Oh sweet Emilia, your time will come don’t worry. And it will be glorious and we’re all gonna be sobbing watching you and Kit-Kat on screen, with his pretty hair and Jimmy Choo war boots.

icequinn: Well there’s a photo of Kit and Podeswa on set by Linen Mills (filming whatever Northern scenes) and there’s that call sheet which states Director: Jeremy Podeswa, Episode: 701. Unless it’s 704. It’s not entirely conclusive.

If he’s helming episode 704, then it means Jon is still in the North until then.

Well, Podeswa could be doing 703 and 704. Remember that more than one scene was shooting that day and the sheet could very well have been for the scene with Bran (Big Tree). If the 704 scene was for Bran then potentially the scene with everyone else could have been 703. Jon could leave at the end of the episode and be in Dragonston by 704.

I think its given that he will be directing first two episodes since he had been doing that in the past. And only Alan Taylor can do the last two episodes 6 and 7

Matt could have directed 3rd episode but since we know he is doing 5th so mark mylod must be doing 3 and 4

I hope they do a better job on him this time http://gameofthrones.wikia.com/wiki/Qhono?file=Qhono_603.png

I bet Podeswa is doing the first two same as last year.

Oh, don’t be too exited by “VIKING”: the visuals are more or less, but all in all it’s a simple piece of Russian propaganda made in the context of the present Russian-Ukrainian war, and it’s very much more about wars over history and a certain idea that a perfect king (prince in this particular case) must be just like Mr. Putin (or Stallin at best). All in all, the second world problems you will hardly understand. PS. Sorry for the off-topic.

Of all the dothraki that were cast last season only staz gets to return…shame i really liked Joe naufaue ( iam not sure that i spelled correct ) wish he had stayed long..

I hope that High Priestess of the Dosh Khaleen and Kinvara will return as well.

Podeswa is directing 701 and 702. On the sheet it’s written “episodes” next to his name. Plural. And there’s “701/” which confirms it. Given the experience of Alan Taylor and especially teh fact that he filmed such iconic episodes as 109 and 110, I’m 99% positive he’s doing 706 and 707. Now, the real question is Mylod and Shakman. Either Mylod is doing 703/704 or Shakman’s doing 704/705. I’m thinking it’s the former. They are comfortable with Mylod and Shakman is the new guy.

Maybe she brought some men company with her. Kit was with Rose and not with cast in Belfast or simply they’re hiding her.

Yeah very good point , theyr following george design

I totally agree with you, my friend. Dany’s fans are always saying that everyone, everywhere should bend the knee to her.. But Jon is just as important as her or even more in my opinion.. He was the only one with enough balls to tell everyone that the WW are coming!. And even more.. He’s has been brought back from death! Holly Sh**! Dany , on the other hand, re-borns from the fire although. But I’m still sure that, both of them are equally important.

moiaf: Well, Podeswa could be doing 703 and 704. Remember that more than one scene was shooting that day and the sheet could very well have been for the scene with Bran (Big Tree).If the 704 scene was for Bran then potentially the scene with everyone else could have been 703. Jon could leave at the end of the episode and be in Dragonston by 704.

Ok, the LM set photos are from the same timeframe (apart from Bran’s as Isaac was leaving the set when Maisie was heading towards it and we learned he was filming with the Night’s Watch crew). There’s Jon, Brienne, Davos, Tormund, Sansa, Lord Glover, Lyanna, the redhead (prolly Alys Karstark), the little boy, and Arya present for the scene/s being filmed by Podeswa. You think Jon and co filmed scene/s seperate from the one/s with Arya, Lyanna and some others (again)?

Unless Podeswa used an assistant director he couldn’t have been filming separate scenes at the same time. And we have no sightings of any other director (Mylod or Shakman or Taylor) at that time.

Unless of course, Maisie didn’t film separate scene/s and she will be in Winterfell when Jon’s still there. So if Podeswa has 701 and 702, Arya reaches Winterfell early in the season, or if he has 703 and 704, Arya gets there in one of those episodes and Jon is still present (whether it’s 703 or 704).

I dont think their comment about davos is true tho.

They are still covering half the entrances apparently

Just now I’m seeing the new post duh I’m gonna post almost the same thing here then

Emilia not with the rest of the cast. Again. I think she won’t hang with them while Kit is still there Lol

I don’t get it. What’s going on? It’s not like she didn’t tell the whole world several times about her nights out with Kit, lol. Everybody already knows he’s there anyway, so what’s the issue?

http://www.elcorreo.com/fotos/bizkaia/201610/21/juego-tronos-rueda-juan-203712237175-mm.html?edition=bizkaia new photos of missandei, jon, tyrion, davos and dotraki

edit: they added more three photos to the gallery of yesterday filming. I guess they were all filming together. at least kit, peter, nathalie and liam

I don’t think it has anything to do with their personal lives though.

Considering that Davos, Tyrion and Gendry things are ep. 5. They trust each other enough to go mission together. Means, meeting between parties happened befoe in that episode or previous episode 4.

Why in the world would they say that 🙁 . That better not be true.

Ah Tyrion and Jon that’s going to be so great.He did in fact give Jon the most important advice in his llife.Maybe this is a continuation of yesterday’s scene.Jon and Davos take a stroll and meet up with Tyrion and Missandei.This is so exting.

I totally agree with you, my friend. Dany’s fans are always saying that everyone, everywhere should bend the knee to her..

I’ve haven’t seen a Daenerys fan say this. Yara didn’t so I don’t know why they would think anyone else should. Honestly all I’ve been seeing on the bending knee crap are jon fans being embarrassing about fake spoilers. Let’s stop. This particular discussion has tired itself out.

Moving on. Does anyone have a clue what nunber episode this is?

Rumour has it five but who knows other directors might be there.

It’s meeting between vassal and ruler. Since when Jon Snow become equal to Daenerys the Queen of the all 7 kingdom and the empress of the Dotraiki and Ghiscari empire ?Dany is summoning her vassals all over Westeros

oh fuck sake….tone down your BS you smell and sound a like damn fanboy/fangirl

Than why to hide herself? Because Kit is there and not give up this?

yeah some dany fans got the “stannis syndrome” with their “bend the knee” bullshit and if it ever happen i would call it bad writing…..dany give independence to pirates and looters…but want the submission of the ones who have been attacked by them…dany will got a lot of hate if it happen….so no

Let’s just bunk all the theories if dany getting caught,,,it’s not going to happen…I m really exited seeing all my favorite characters at one place,,,dany,jon, tyrion…who else I want in this comb,,, Jaime is missing there for me… bring him along and I will be more happy…

Regarding the directors, it may depend on which episode the big battle is. I thought Ep4, but now I feel like it may be happening earlier, say Ep3 or even Ep2, though the required setup from Cersei’s side demands quite a bit of screen time.

One way or another, it looks like the battle is going to be massive both on the shore and in the sea. And that may imply that the director who will be doing the battle will be doing only one episode, cause it’s a lot of work.

Why in the world would they say that . That better not be true.

Davos and Tyrion go on a mission together (so both parties form alliance), so no he’s not dying. It wouldn’t make sense and it wouldn be in the scene the person photographed.

Jon Snow, With Tyrion, Ser Davos, Missandei all clearly walking to mean Daenarys. [new]

Sooooo happy about all the meetings we’ll have next season. Jon/Dany, Jon/Tyrion, Davos/Gendry, Arya/Sansa, Sansa/Bran, Bran/Arya.

I hope Jon goes back to Winterfell to see his siblings, there’s nothing I want more than a Arya/Jon reunion but I see what D&D are doing… they want to delay the reveal of Jon’s parentage until after he meets her. I really don’t want them to be a couple, but this delay is suspicious, I feel like I need to prepare myself lol

Wow, Jon and Tyrion together again after all these years. They are in such vastly different stations in life now from when they last saw each other; the catching up should be interesting.

It looks like these latest photos are of Davos and Jon arriving on Dragonstone, since they’re climbing up towards the building and the Dothraki are clearly guarding them while Tyrion and Missandei escort them. Yesterday’s pics had Jon and Davis going down the stairs while the Dothraki were not following them. So, we’re missing the most important scene of all: the Dany and Jon meeting. Which, unfortunately, will probably be filmed in studio.

After all the talk yesterday about Dany finally wearing red and black, I’m a little disappointed seeing her in drab brown. The style of her new outfit is fabulous and befitting a warrior queen, but it would’ve been nice to see her wearing Targaryen red, kinda like Viserys did. I hope that comes later.

Loving all the new costumes – very much in keeping with the fact that winter has finally arrived and the climate is much colder than these characters experienced in Essos.

Can’t wait to see these scenes on screen – particularly looking forward to Jon and Tyrion’s reunion. I am currently re-watching season one, and it has got me even more excited about these two characters crossing paths again.

Davos’ death is true, it means that someone will be going in pursuit of Davos, Tyrion, and Gendry, which kind of consistent with the scene of there departure from the KL coast. I mean they leave in haste without trying to hide the bodies of the dead GC, so really there must be more GC going after them.

These “new” pictures with Tyrion and Jon were taken yesterday .

We need better photos to be sure but it seems like Dany has some accessory on head? I hope its some piece Michele designed.

It can be a different scene: they can film multiply scenes in the same location. And it’s not impossible that more Gold Cloaks will go after Davos, Tyrion, and Gendry, which could lead to

. Moreover, such pursuit scene may require professional rowers the showrunners were rumored to cast for Zumaia… Still hope, that

It’s confusing what was filmed yesterday and what is of today. So the pic of Jon and Tyrion with Davos and Missendei behind them (most likely Jon and Davos going up those stairs to meet Many) is of yesterday?

All of them are apparently filming today too, according to the Instagram pic that Kargaryen linked.

I don’t really think that’s what they are filming. I think the guy who instagrammed was just trying to gain attention.

Maybe he left it in Winterfell? It could be needed more in the north.

What I am wondering about is why neither Jon or Sansa ever asked Brienne about Oathkeeper. Especially Jon should be interested in making a record of all Valyrian swords around. Well, maybe they just decided she can keep it. But it’s a pity we haven’t seen their reaction to that news.

This new form of censorship, releasing as much as possible, is rather interesting.

Ahhhh so many new posts how is a girl supposed to get anything done?! Lol!!

Arya would be like: Hi Sansa, why is Littlefinger still alive? Then she’ll immediately stab him a few times.

That person just wants attention. Why would anything happen to Davos if Tyrion is with them and he knows Jon? He’s safe.

I wonder what are Davos and Missandei talking about?How good they are at diplomacy?Dealing with Jon and Dany’s saviour complex lol?Come to think of it they do have some things in common.Is Jon telling Tyrion he wished he would have been his first and only brother in law?So many possibilities!

I did. Many times in other sites.. I know that’s not the case here, but that’s my opinion. Yara doesn’t bend the knee because Dany is not the Queen of Westeros.. So there’s no need to do that. When she becomes Queen, it won’t matter if the want to bend the knee or not.. they will have to do it anyway. Otherwise.. Those who doesn’t , will be an “enemy of the crown”. It’s my opinion.. So I’m moving on from topics too. 🙂

taim: no its just stupid. I am sick of some people wanting him to bend the knee, I dont think it will happen and he should not, it would be bad writing. Jon is not like inferior to dany. Dany fans can be really tiresome, oh everyone needs to bow down to the dragon queen! lol

I’m just going to remind all, Sansa never bent the knees in book, but what did they have her do for Saint Tyrion in the show- they will do what they want it’s theirs.

This seems to be kind of a misunderstanding… I find the Daenerys storyline (and character) rather boring and would prefer if the season concentrated more on Jon’s character development and story.

Jon is the one who sees the bigger story, the real war coming. Daenerys does not (not yet). Thus of course her aim after landing in Westeros will be that all bow the knee to their new Targaryen queen, it’s what she’s fighting for for years – or do you doubt that?

Aside from the real war coming against the WW, I also doubt Jon is interested in gaining the iron throne himself; even as KitN (a title he never fought for) his main interest would be to secure the freedom and wellbeing of the people in the North.

But in the given situation, I’m sure Jon couldn’t give a greater shit on who claims him/herself Queen/King of the seven kingdoms – he knows that this will be an empty title in the very near future. So if Daenerys wants him to swear loyalty now, why should he not do it – because in exchange he will be able to show her what the real enemy is and gain her support for that war.

Meaning: in the end all including the famous dragonqueen will follow Jon’s insight and lead into the big confrontation between the living and the dead.

Apparently CGI’d dragons are cheaper than CGI’d direwolves (scales vs hair). One would need crowdfunding to have more scenes with the wolves. I think they said that they prefer to keep a wolf out of a scene rather than having it look unreal. The dogs aren’t an option anymore. I think they used scaled-up real wolves as well, maybe it’s hard to record scenes with them, however, it would have been nice to have a resting white wolf under the table in S6E10. But I think it’s mainly a matter of costs and practicality. As long as one or two wolves survives the show/books, I am fine if they don’t appear everywhere. (I guess Summer will die in the books as well, and Shaggydog gets lost on Skagos. As long as Ghost still lives after Jon discovers he’s a Targaryen.)

Arya would be like: Hi Sansa, why is Littlefinger still alive? Then she’ll immediately stab him a few times.

Grail King: I’m just going to remind all, Sansa never bent the knees in book, but what did they have her do for Saint Tyrion in the show- they will do what they want it’s theirs.

Nothing wrong with a little bending of knees…

And let’s stop the Saint Tyrion nonsense shall we? Keep that to the Rant and Rave thread at Westeros.org. If it’s Saint Tyrion it’s also Saint Sansa considering they also whitewashed her by removing the scene on the show where she betrays her family by telling Ned’s plans to Cersei.

Yes, Vikings just looks like another slash and burn extravaganza to me- meh. Much more excited for ‘The Last Kingdom’ S2.

Actually, after Davos brings Gendry back into the story, he might become kind of expendable. Gendry will take the role of the chief expert of KL, whereas Tyrion – the role of the chief councellor to Jon as much as to Dany (they are the big trinity after all), and the role of Davos looks to be played. One way or another he is among the potential goners of the upcoming season. Needless to say, that it breaks my heart.

Pod, Daenerys was in a position of control. Yara was asking for aid. She already considers Daenerys the queen. Daenerys could’ve asked her to bend the knee. for example: Stannis wasn’t king of westeros when Jon “bend the knee” to him. all it took was Jon believing in his right to be king.

Speaking of Greyjoys, how have we have not heard about Euron? I though he was a big baddie. Are Theon and Yara already separated from others? So many question

Imo, you mean “Vikings” (TV series), but the talk was about “Viking” or “The Viking” – the “historical” Russian movie of 2016 about Duke (Prince) Vladimir of Kiev (or St. Vadimir of Kiev). That’s a totally different thing.

taim: I am sick of some people wanting him to bend the knee, I dont think it will happen and he should not, it would be bad writing. Jon is not like inferior to dany. Dany fans can be really tiresome, oh everyone needs to bow down to the dragon queen! lol

Excuse me? Do you realize that all that “bending the knee” talk comes from Jon fans who assume she’s gonna ask him to do that with no real evidence, and have been crapping on her for quite some days now? No one would be talking about that if each 30 minutes a new Jon fan didn’t start whining about that again.

GOD can’t you just hold your Breath isn’t Reddit enough for you ?

My comment was about a photo someone posted on IG saying

among other things, they were filming Davos’ death. Of course he can die, its just that there’s no reason it would be in the scenes they are filming in Dragonstone

Daenerys, Correction: He is actually in Liverpool. He is in the Anfield Stadium.

SerNoName: Nothing wrong with a little bending of knees…

And let’s stop the Saint Tyrion nonsense shall we? Keep that to the Rant and Rave thread at Westeros.org. If it’s Saint Tyrion it’s also Saint Sansa considering they also whitewashed her by removing the scene on the show where she betrays her family bytelling Ned’s plans to Cersei.

No on both. : ) Tyrion rapes and kills has a singer put in a bowl of brown, kills prostitutes for not having or enjoying sex, gropes a 12 year old .

Sansa disobeys her dad to say good bye gets captured and Cersei got info out of an 11 year old girl that she used. One is not very nice and the other is naive and foolish

Davos is Jon’s adviser. He’s not expendable. Jon still needs his own people he can trust and rely on. Also, Gendry isn’t an expert in KL.

No offense, but I’ve seen some Dany fans doing the same thing in other posts (even one in this post who relaunched the whole debate about how everything belongs to Dany, including a sword that isn’t hers to give away). It’s coming from both sides.

Davos and Missandei, can’t wait for that convo!

Sorry guys. I was wrong the photos of Jon and Tyrion are indeed from today. I made confusion because El correo posted the photos in the gallery of photos from yesterday filming.

The article says these pictures with Jon and Tyrion are from this Saturday. So, today 🙂

Brienne and Daenerys at the Dragonpit. Which according to L7R (Javi) will take place towards the end of the season (which I take to mean episode 6 or 7). So unless they changed the location of the Dragonpit or for some reason they go back to Dragonstone after taking King’s Landing; Davos isn’t dying, not in this scene they’re filming.

Alfie’s a Liverpool fan??? Ugh! Suddenly not feeling so bad about all that torture Theon went through.

Sorry about my “deliberate” mistake – should be ‘who was the spy’.

“sábado” is the same in portuguese so I understand that part lol

Yup. Thats why I’m saying the person just invented so they could gain attention.

No, Arsenal. I think his team is going to play with Liverpool today. And Kit is a M.United fan.

No offense, but I’ve seen some Dany fans doing the same thing in other posts (even one in this post who relaunched the whole debate about how everything belongs to Dany, including a sword that isn’t hers to give away). It’s coming from both sides.

Yeah, it’s definitely both sides. But I really hope this sort of talk doesn’t carry us all through the offseason; it’s quite tiring.

There’s not that much difference between the two – it still meant Tristane (at least in season 2) wasn’t the heir.

No, Arsenal. I think his team is going to play with Liverpool today.

Well, I’m a Spurs fan so Arsenal is even worse! And Arsenal is playing at home in London today against Middlesbrough. Liverpool is playing West Brom. So maybe Alfie was just in Liverpool for other reasons and decided to take in the match.

Oh okay. He is filming some documentary and I think it’s about football. edit: The other day he was filming something in Everton’s stadium.

If the choice is between bending the knee to obtain dragon power to fight the wights and walkers and by extension saving the population of Westeros and not bending and watching his people be exterminated by the Walkers, guess what? Jon will bend the knee because Jon is truly the ‘duty’ and ‘for the people’ type of leader than Stannis and Daenerys have always claimed to be. Bending the knee to avoid destruction for his people does not make him inferior, in fact it reaffirms the fact that he is the better person, the better leader. Jon doesn’t need titles to be who he is.

What a mean.. is that it’s not absollutly necesary if they don’t need to do it.. Unless.. that she’s already the Queen of Westeros. Then it will be absolutely necesary.

Tyrion rapes and kills has a singer put in a bowl of brown, kills prostitutes for not having or enjoying sex, gropes a 12 year old .

No, Sansa betrays her family to the Lannisters telling Cersei Ned’s plans on getting the girls out of KL and to WF. Because of this, Arya had to escape and Jeyne poole was send to a brothel and she herself became a hostage. Her being a hostage led to Ned losing his head. GRRM himself holds Sansa partially accountable for what happened to Ned in KL. Sansa’s betrayal of her family is an important part of her story and the TV series conveniently never shows that. So, Saint Sansa was also whitewashed on the show like almost all the characters.

But I get that Sansa fans love to especially target Tyrion and call him Saint Tyrion on the show. Please do that on the Rant and Rave thread at Westeros because that sort of obnoxious commentary ruins the discussion on here.

I love Daenerys’ costume. It’s outdoors and extremely fitting for a modern Queen coming from somewhere that is not Westeros. I think the pictures of the Targ crew only, could be her arrival, though I thought before that scene would be a night scene. Then Jon and Davos arrive and are escorted to meet Daenerys. They are obviously accepted as friends and afterwards, Jon and Davos are walking the ramparts (yesterday’s pictures) as guests of Dragonstone. Season 7 WILL BE THE BEST YET!! 😀

On another note: can we please, please keep the same old tired “bend the knee”, “Saint Tyrion”, “who has the bigger balls, Jon or Daenerys”, type arguments to other boards that specialize in that kind of talk? A very few posters here are turning out to be a horrendous bore amongst all the excitement of the coming season for the rest of us.

Looks like most of the people responding to her tweets aren’t happy with the leaks either.

So if this is her landing scene, where does she get the outfit? When they leave Merreen she’s not wearing that.

Yeah that’s Emilia.I think people in Spain are convinced that her name is Khaleesi lol.

So it is a fact that the Unsullied and Dothraki are with their Queen. I am happy about that. Thanks WotW.

Well if it is ep 5 then it’s not her landing scene.But even if it was she changed on the ship.You don’t think she spent the whole journey in the same clothes lol

I’m tired of Jon and Dany fans ruining all of the comment sections on this board with their constant back and forth. There are tons of people who like them both and the show and would rather not have to read the divisive comments over and over again.

I am one of those people. I’m looking forward to them meeting and seeing what happens but you all make it hard to stand coming to the board anymore.

Bending the knee to avoid destruction for his people does not make him inferior, in fact it reaffirms the fact that he is the better person, the better leader.Jon doesn’t need titles to be who he is.

Well said. I was criticized for this but it makes Jon who he is. Just like when he raced after Rickon and not watching him die. It might seem to people as a mistake but in fact is in line with Jon’s character.

We are so unlucky lol I was hoping we’d get better photos of Emilia today and then she arrives all covered. -.-

So now this argument is valid because its jon.. And not valid to dany or stannis..

Especially when we have dany’s POV and her view about her people and duty to them..

This notion in the fandom that jon is the only character who is about serving people and sees the bigger picture and just not care about power or rule because he knows about WW and cares only about them is really frustrating..

A character can claim and occupy throne and still can care about people serve them and see the bigger picture.

For all the talk about jon doesn’t care about who is ruling and things…he still needed to remove Ramsey and reclaim winterfell for himself ..the power of kingships is needed..

But I guess its all because of WW is a valid reason that takes away all the blame..

While other characters who didn’t have the luxary of being in the wall storyline has to have a reason such as reconquering westeros..

It all comes from the supposed leaks. That’s where they get it from.

The leaks say Dany takes Longclaw from Jon. And demands he bend the knee to her. Two actions that begin to worry Tyrion and Varys.

These are the two things you see the most in their points in these comments. So there’s no doubt the people complaining about these things read those supposed leaks. Not that it means any of it is true, but I’m just pointing out where I think it’s coming from.

I don’t think all the scenes being filmed here are from ep 5. There might be other directors around too.

icequinn: I guess scaly reptiles are fancier to the showrunners than direwolves, the warging and the deep bond between them and Starks (it doesn’t exist in the show). I wonder why they bothered to introduce them at all seeing as they cut out many things, they could as well have cut them out altogether. They’ve been useless and barely there most of the time, so unlike their book counterparts.

With a heavy heart I agree. It seems in the books that there was an equal-ness to Targaryen bonds with their dragons and Stark bonds to their wolves, and I loved the way each wolf was portrayed as an extension of the child they belonged to. Since Dany has her Drogon, than Ghost should be just as important to Jon, and may I add, a hell of a lot bigger, lol. If its a CGI budget thing then I would have preferred they cut down on showing the other two dragons so Ghost could be as prominent as he should be. You would think the design of a giant wolf would be a tad easier than a dragon, but, what do I know of such things.

I wonder if we’ll see Emilia go out with her castmates this weekend, as it appears her birthday would be tomorrow (though there is conflicting reports of when it actually is lol)

Oh yeah I completely forget about that argument that all of them will drown on the way..

Anyways iam sure people will come up with we can’t be sure about the fact all of them made safe landing ..

And that argument will be as same only to be silenced as not all dothraki will follow her or dothraki and unsullied will remain shirtless

But what about dany’s characterization.. I guess people dont care about it.

Both dany fans and jon fans have trolls and we can see who they are and that i would like to just ignore them..

But this bending knee subject if it spoils any character then its dany’s ..and very few jon fans i have seen to say ” that its not it dany’s character ”

We are so unlucky lol I was hoping we’d get better photos of Emilia today and then she arrives all covered. -.-

Yeah I know they started because of the “leaks” I just don’t know why people stress so much over something they have no proof is going to happen.

Her birthday is tomorrow yeah. Maybe if they give her a fancy cake again she’ll post something on IG.

Dame of Mercia: There’s not that much difference between the two – it still meant Tristane (at least in season 2) wasn’t the heir.

In season 2, Tristane WASN’T the heir… Oberyn was the heir as Doran’s younger brother. Then Oberyn died which THEN made Tristane the heir so there was no inconsistency. The change between the seasons in Tristane’s status was Oberyn’s death.

Two photos but the quality is very bad compared to the ones posted yesterday.

I’m a bit disappointed that Daenerys is wearing brown but it appears most of them are.

I think so too tbh.It’s a different episodes but it still doesn’t look like her arrival to me.If I had to guess I would say this is later.

Oh yeah i completely forget about that…tomorrow only her birthday ..

She last celebrated her birthday with the cast and crew members when they were filming daznak pit … The cake had nice three headed targeryan sigil on top of it

The only reason I think this is her landing scene is that because we have everyone from her team there so unless its the first time they go up the stairs i dont think they will do a later scene with all members.

The real question for Jon’s meeting wirh Dany is will he know his true parentage by then and that she is actually his Aunt?

“Oh, you came to take the Irone Throne? Sorry Aunt Dany but it’s actually mine.”

But in all seriousness, when will that piece of pertinent information come out? This is probably what I’m looking forward to most, along with their reactions and the reactions of those around them. I know Jon claiming the throne hinges on his legitimacy so there will be that issue to contend with, but Jon being Jon, will he want to be King of Westeros, or would he concede it to Dany with the promise of the North being independent… So much to think about!

Jon & Tyrion. Bestill my heart. I would be so brill if this is actually a family reunion for the three.

So if this is her landing scene, where does she get the outfit? When they leave Merreen she’s not wearing that.

She had it in her suitcase. She didn’t spend the entire trip in the same outfit standing still on the ship.

pinkofhair: I’m tired of Jon and Dany fans ruining all of the comment sections on this board with their constant back and forth. There are tons of people who like them both and the show and would rather not have to read the divisive comments over and over again.

PREACH IT! It was Jon and Sansa last season, Cersei’s rape before that, all the way back to Pedro Pascal cast as Oberyn Martell and the legendary meltdowns because Pedro was not who fans had cast in their minds as Oberyn (when I first started coming to the site). The series is ending and one great thing about that fact is that I will not have to read more of this beyond another season.

orange: It all comes from the supposed leaks. That’s where they get it from.

But these “leaks” were not posted HERE. SO why not discuss these “leaks” where they came from?

Unless Podeswa used an assistant director he couldn’t have been filming separate scenes at the same time. And we have no sightings of any other director (Mylod or Shakman or Taylor) at that time.

Merely because the paparazzi didn’t catch them doesn’t mean other directors weren’t there.

Than search more. Don’t think people means it as Jon being the only one to be able to do it, but certainly more willing to sacrifice things or even bending the knee than others. But he’s also in different position, as he never grew up with being a Lord or having powerful name. For him at least as far show goes, it is just title KitN. Title he can use for WW invasion because as Davos said, he ain’t gonna help them sitting at Winterfell and doing nothing. Same as he’s doing now and travelling to Dany. Using his title and power to achieve what he needs to do.

He tried to defeat Boltons mainly because Rickon, Boltons would go after them and Ramsay threatening to rape Sansa, also WW. He didn’t even expected to be nothing more than Jon Snow. He said that Sansa is Lady of Winterfell and Northern Lords pushed him to be KitN, not Jon himself. Careful with that. Not fighting because it was his right or because he wants titles, lands. He did it out of pure and simple thought emotional side being his family and practical being WW. Sansa wanted revenge for everything.

I know you hate when someone or something portrays Jon in better light than Dany but it is what it is.

Negotiations are often poker game. Dany is in right to demand for him to kneel it because has holds triumphs and Jon needs her a bit more. Not that she dosn’t need him and what he knows against WW is valuable.

Besides the fact that WW are stories for children and even some Northern Lords might not believe it. So basically it’s like I would come to you as absolute stranger and say ” I saw Bigfoot” help me track him down, you would have hard time believing it.

So Jon is coming to tell her he saw monsters not been seen in thousands of years. Dragons at least lived in relatively current time. Jon is in defense and he has to do something to convince others and it is not as easy.

The leatherers weren’t expecting her, so they didn’t think to place an order for the Red leather- and the Red Witch cleared out their stock for her shoes the last time she was in town.

So, Dany indeed has a massive red mantle decorated with black furs (seen at 0.12-0.14), and it don’t think she’s gonna wear it on top of her brown leather costume. So, looks like there will be multiply scenes, filmed for multiply episodes (4-5-6 I suppose).

The real question for Jon’s meeting wirh Dany is will he know his true parentage by then and that she is actually his Aunt?

“Oh, you came to take the Irone Throne? Sorry Aunt Dany but it’s actually mine.”

Tbh Rhaegar and his kids were disinherited by Aerys and Viserys named King in exile, wasn’t he? Aerys was paranoid and thought Rhaegar was conspiring with rebels against him? Maybe I got it wrong.

Even if Jon is legtimate and I have my doubts, he’s still no “rightful King of Seven Kingdoms” I hate this terms rightful King or Queen. Basically his blood is all that’s needed.

In terms of succesion Dany comes before Jon legitimate or not but don’t think they’re really gonna go this way “who’s got better claim.” That’s for childish fans debate because Jon is not interested in Iron Throne, Dany is coming to conquer it which is the only way she can earn it or anyone else.

That’s what iam saying you need power and title if you want people to listen to what you have to say..

And all iam saying is just because someone has or wants power doesn’t mean they are power hungry and entitled….one can actually go for power to do good and serve and protect the people..

IMO, arrivals (both Jon’s and Dany’s) will be filmed on Zumaia beach: with all that prop it now it looks like a mini-port/regular landing site.

I assume that was protecting/hiding her outfit. Same about that thing covering the wig.

Something important that people LOVE to overlook is that Dany KNOWS about the long night, she may not be consciouse of it but she knows through her dragon dreams and the house of the undying. In the show she has seen the wall and king´s landing in winter and in the books she has seen the wall, the blue rose and herself on drogon fighting the white walkers, she calls them the usurpers in ice armor.

This whole idea of Dany giving people a hard time just because is bullshit, Dany has been wirtten for this, all of the 6 seasons have been Dany preparing for the long night.

Jay Targ: Yeah, it’s definitely both sides.But I really hope this sort of talk doesn’t carry us all through the offseason; it’s quite tiring.

Honestly. I’m tired of hearing the crowing and the whining from both fandoms. I just have to point out that Jon bending the knee, if he does it, doesn’t make him inferior to Dany. If you’re expecting Jon to be the winningest, then maybe, but as a character it doesn’t hurt him. Jon’s goals are not the same as the ones some of his fans have for him.

Jon v Dany is already really really annoying during the hiatus.

I don’t care about crowns or lands or rulership or even animal avatars because I don’t think that’s what makes a character interesting.

But this bending knee subject if it spoils any character then its dany’s ..and very few jon fans i have seen to say ” that its not it dany’s character ”

I think this is a good argument. Jon, I think, would accept her as his queen, as she holds every card. An immensely powerful big bad with no motive but to kill humans is coming for them. Jon knows it’s time for games to stop.

…and every ruler in Dany’s position would demand that he bend the knee in return for help.

Dany, however, is the show’s Mary Sue. Rules that create suspense for most other characters (will they win? Will they do the right thing?) usually break down for her. The show has been trying so hard to turn her into an ideal that it’s destroyed all suspense in her arc, harming the character (imo). So she might do the one thing that the writers believe will most appeal to the viewers while keeping her an idealized character, and accept Jon as an equal.

Of course, having her choose this path is so off kilter for the show’s universe, that the writers might balk at going that far. I can see a situation where Dany demands he become her subject, then, later, accepts him as an equal.

I’m tired of Jon and Dany fans ruining all of the comment sections on this board with their constant back and forth. There are tons of people who like them both and the show and would rather not have to read the divisive comments over and over again.

I am one of those people. I’m looking forward to them meeting and seeing what happens but you all make it hard to stand coming to the board anymore.

Amen. I’m excited to see them meet too and I think I’m just going to have to stay out of fandom alltogether because harshing my vibe rn.

I don’t think the show has ever mentioned that Rhaegar was disinherited. The issue may be addressed this season though.

So here’s the deal. We encourage high-spirited discussion and debate, it’s what discussion boards are for. But some of you are bordering on trolling with your aggression in several posts, and mods are noticing. No one is interested in a year of screaming matches over Jon vs Dany. This is a community- we want friendly discussion, not antagonism. Take it down a notch or action will be taken.

And yes, we can tell when one person is using multiple screennames even when they try to disguise it. Behave.

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